Is SUSY Facing Its Demise? Examining the LHC's Latest Results

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The discussion revolves around the implications of recent LHC results on the viability of supersymmetry (SUSY). Participants explore the challenges faced by SUSY in light of experimental data, particularly regarding the search for supersymmetric particles and their expected masses.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the lack of detection of superpartners at the LHC raises concerns about the future of SUSY.
  • One participant questions the possibility of shifting the masses of supersymmetric particles arbitrarily high, suggesting that there are underlying reasons for this limitation.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the potential for unification within the Standard Model, indicating that significant alterations may be necessary.
  • There is a mention of the hope that SUSY could address the fine-tuning issue related to the Higgs mass, which requires soft-breaking near the TeV scale.
  • A participant inquires about alternative theories to SUSY, suggesting that without viable alternatives, SUSY may remain a necessary framework.
  • One participant emphasizes that the discussion should focus on the LHC's failure to discover expected SUSY particles, rather than broader theoretical implications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the LHC results for SUSY, with no consensus reached on the future of the theory or the necessity of alternative models.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the current understanding of SUSY, including unresolved questions about the masses of supersymmetric particles and the implications of LHC findings on theoretical frameworks.

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Super Partners have not been seen by LHC

http://stardrive.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3495:beautiful-theory-collides-with-smashing-particle-data&catid=43:science&Itemid=82

How very hyped up. In all honesty, I think a great many things will have to be altered in the Standard Model before any unification is achieved.
 
I guess that there are reasons why the masses of the supersymmetric particles cannot be shifted arbitrarily high ?

The hope for super-symmetry is that it can be used to avoid the fine-tuning needed for the Higgs mass. For that, you need soft-breaking near the TeV scale.
 
Do we have any near alternative theories against SUSY? If not, we could not help using SUSY.
 
Discussion about the physics of SUSY should be done in the Beyond The Standard Model forum. This thread is limited only to reporting what the LHC (both CMS and ATLAS) has not discovered per the expected SUSY particles.

Zz.
 

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