Is Symmetry Breaking Occurring in Our Physical System Experiments?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the occurrence of symmetry breaking in a complex physical mathematical system based on experimental observations. Participants explore the nature of symmetry phenomena and their relation to symmetry breaking, while also addressing the status of the experiments and the need for published findings.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that symmetry phenomena observed in experiments may indicate symmetry breaking, drawing parallels to processes like freezing where symmetry breaking is known to occur.
  • Others question the clarity and specificity of the experimental setup, noting the need for more detailed descriptions of the system and its environment.
  • One participant emphasizes that the total entropy of the system is decreasing, which may relate to the symmetry phenomena observed.
  • There is a call for links to journal articles to support the claims made, highlighting the importance of published research in facilitating discussion.
  • Some participants express that discussions on unpublished experiments cannot proceed, adhering to forum rules regarding pre-publication support.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the clarity and validity of the claims regarding symmetry breaking, with some expressing skepticism about the vagueness of the initial post. The discussion remains unresolved as it hinges on unpublished experimental results.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of published data to support claims, the unclear definition of the system and its environment, and the unresolved nature of the experimental findings.

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Found some symmetry (breaking) phenominon in complex physical mathematical system, is there a possibility symmetry breaking is occuring?
In some experiments of a complex physical mathematical system, we found some symmetry phenomenon, very similar as symmetry breaking phenomenon, say, as translatable sysmmetry etc. These symmetry (breaking) phenomenon occurs in most of the parts of the system or some parts of the system. Can you say symmetry breaking is occurring in this system? You can think it as a voting. Do you support or deny it is occurring? Or give a probability that you think it is occurring. Thanks in advance!
 
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TempleSweeper said:
In some experiments of a complex physical mathematical system, we found some symmetry phenomenon very similar as symmetry breaking phenomenon, say, as translatable sysmmetry etc.
Can you post links to the journal articles describing these experiments? That will help to facilitate the discussion. Thank you.
 
Sorry, mentor. Factually our experiments are still in the labs and we have not published any paper about it yet Factually it is a complex physical mathematical system. And we know the total entropy of it is decreasing. Then in the experiment we found some symmetry phenomenon, say, translatable symmetry, very similar to, or at least a little similar to the process of water(or silica) freezing into ice(or glass) where symmetry breaking is occurring. .
 
This is way too vague...
 
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TempleSweeper said:
And we know the total entropy of it is decreasing.
If your system is not closed you'll need to describe the environment too (in addition to the system, that is still completely unclear). But if this is not published, and you think it is something new, please do publish it first. Once it passed peer review we can discuss it here.
 
TempleSweeper said:
our experiments are still in the labs and we have not published any paper about it yet
Sorry, per our rules we cannot discuss it at this point. We do not give any sort of pre-publication support, advice, or feedback. Once it has been published in the scientific literature, then we can discuss it here. Until then, this thread is closed.
 

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