Is taking Calculus online a good idea for a first-timer?

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The discussion revolves around the decision to take Calculus I with analytic geometry online for the first time. Participants share their thoughts on the effectiveness of online learning compared to traditional classroom settings, particularly focusing on the challenges and benefits of studying mathematics in an online format.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confidence in their ability to learn online and questions the drawbacks of taking the course online, noting that homework is typically done at home regardless.
  • Another participant suggests that online math courses may lead to self-teaching, which could be beneficial or detrimental depending on the student's learning style and discipline.
  • A different viewpoint highlights that online courses lack immediate access to instructors for questions, which can complicate the learning process compared to in-person classes.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of being dedicated and using various resources, such as textbooks and online lectures, to succeed in an online format.
  • There is a mention that the perceived difficulty of calculus may vary based on individual preferences and experiences with related subjects like chemistry and physics.
  • One participant shares their personal experience of successfully completing online courses while encouraging the original poster to remain committed to their studies.
  • Another participant notes that their learning style does not significantly change whether the course is online or in-person, suggesting that personal learning preferences play a crucial role in this decision.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions regarding the effectiveness of online learning for calculus. While some see it as a viable option with proper dedication and resourcefulness, others caution about potential drawbacks, particularly regarding access to immediate support and the risk of becoming complacent.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various learning styles and personal experiences, indicating that the effectiveness of online learning may depend on individual circumstances. There is no consensus on whether online calculus courses are universally beneficial or detrimental.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering online mathematics courses, particularly those new to calculus or with varying learning styles, may find this discussion relevant.

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OK so I just need your thoughts or advice on this...please. I have to take calc I w/analytic geometry in the fall and there is one online course, so I have registered to do it online. Some people @ school (not advisors) have advised me not to do it online but to take the class in person because there is a lot of homework and calculus is "hard." I have never had calc before and I don't know how difficult it will be for me, but I know I am good at learning things online and from text...I really can't see any drawbacks with taking it online...if I have any questions the teacher is accessible. And homework...well you do it at home anyways.

If you have taken calc I w analytic geometry, or any calc I, can you see any drawbacks with taking it online?
 
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I can't tell how old your post is, because I'm kind of new to posting on this site. I would say that taking math online isn't all that much different than in the classroom (in the sens that you end up teaching yourself mostly) unless you are someone who really needs to see a lecture in action. The one drawback to online math is it can make you a lazy student (using notes for an exam) and you might short change yourself in the long run if you need to go on to further math classes.
 
Thanks so much Shelovesmath! I usually don't need the lecture so much, only on the rare occasion that it covers something outside of the text. When it comes to math, I rely heavily on the text and exercises and do all I can to learn by myself. I appreciate your answer!I just posted this yesterday by the way. The dates of the posts are above the usernames to the left.
 
shelovesmath said:
I would say that taking math online isn't all that much different than in the classroom (in the sens that you end up teaching yourself mostly) unless you are someone who really needs to see a lecture in action.


Not quite. I've taken Calculus III, Differential Equations and Physics I through online courses. Online courses are definitely different. Much different than any lecture I've ever been through. There are not any teachers (or TAs) that can answer your questions in person. It is sometimes very difficult to try and express your problems through e-mails (with various turn-around times (mine was sometimes up to three days during my Physics course)), compared to raising a hand in class.

Don't let this discourage you from taking the class. If you're committed enough to finish the class, rain or shine, go for it. I finished all the courses, and did pretty well in all of them. But it is up to you. No one cares if you finish the class, other than yourself.

The trick I found is to use your resources. I checked different textbooks out of the library and I looked online for lectures. Many college professors will post their PowerPoints, or lecture notes, especially for a class like Calculus I, on their websites. When all else failed and I was frustrated with the problem (I have almost thrown my DE book into a furnace multiple times :mad:), I came to Physics Forums :biggrin::approve:! If you use the homework section like it is meant to be used, people will gladly help you, especially if you have the mentality of learning, instead of wanting the homework helpers to do the problem for you.

Some people @ school (not advisors) have advised me not to do it online but to take the class in person because there is a lot of homework and calculus is "hard." I have never had calc before and I don't know how difficult it will be for me, but I know I am good at learning things online and from text...

Whether Calculus is hard or not will likely depend on your personality. Some people love Chemistry, and hate Physics, sometimes it's the opposite. Same thing with Calc (in my experience). You may love it, or hate it.

The one drawback to online math is it can make you a lazy student (using notes for an exam) and you might short change yourself in the long run if you need to go on to further math classes.

Very true. HeLiXe, you really need to be dedicated. It definitely can be done, but once you do commit, you must finish the course.

Here is a site I've used before, and you might find it useful. It's kind of a central hub of Calculus study material. Otherwise, you can use Google to find lecture notes:

http://www.calculus.org/

I hope this helped you out. Good luck with the course!:wink:
 
@ Wellesley

Yes, I agree one needs to be willing to use various resources to help oneself. My experience is that I don't ask most of my questions in the classroom anyway. I usually just go to see the professor or e-mail them. I use my handy dandy fancy livescribe pen to write my question down and then e-mail it to them, heehee. Damn, I love that pen, and no I don't work for them LOL.

I think it depends on individual learning style. I'm a kinesthetic learner, so classroom versus online makes no difference for me.
 
Wellesley said:
When all else failed and I was frustrated with the problem (I have almost thrown my DE book into a furnace multiple times :mad:),

:smile: ^^This really made me LOL lol


Wellesley thanks a zillion for your response. Very insightful! I also perused the link you gave me and it looks very exhaustive. Thank you so much for the tools!

I am sure when I am getting frustrated with the course and feeling like quitting, I will hear your imagined voice in my head saying "You must finish the course!"

Thanks again! I really appreciate it so much.
 

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