Is the 3-2-2 Developmental Math Setup Effective?

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The discussion revolves around the effectiveness of the 3-2-2 developmental math setup, specifically in the context of teaching Beginning and Intermediate Algebra at a four-year university. Participants explore challenges related to student attendance in lab sessions, the structure of the course, and strategies for improving engagement and material coverage.

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Main Points Raised

  • One instructor notes that the lab sessions have become ineffective, resembling a study hall with low attendance, and expresses concern about covering the required material in the limited lecture time.
  • Another participant suggests redistributing lecture content into lab time and proposes using mathematical modeling exercises to enhance engagement during lab sessions.
  • A participant without experience in math labs raises questions about the structure and effectiveness of the lab component, linking it to attendance issues in other courses.
  • Several participants inquire about the use of textbooks and whether students are allowed to take them home, questioning the implications for learning and assignment completion.
  • One participant reflects on their own learning experiences, emphasizing the need for students to have adequate time to work through problems outside of class to truly understand the material.
  • The original poster clarifies that students do have access to textbooks at home but still struggles with low lab attendance and the challenge of covering material in two lecture sessions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various concerns about the current setup, particularly regarding lab attendance and material coverage. There is no consensus on the best approach to improve the situation, with multiple competing views on how to structure the course effectively.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the unclear effectiveness of the lab component, the potential impact of attendance policies, and the varying learning paces of students. The discussion does not resolve these issues.

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Hello,
I'm just wanting to hear from anyone who has taught the 3-2-2 (Class is worth 3 credit hours, 2 hours of lecture, 2 hours of "lab") This means that the students have class 4 days a week.

We just changed over to this set up this semester. I am an instructor and I have TA's that head up the labs. The problem is that the "lab" winds up being a study hall and attendance has fallen off (like, 5 of 30 show up). I tried handing out worksheets to supplement the HW to do in lab time to get them to show up, but the Director told me not to do that because it will "mess up the baseline".

Anyway, has anyone taught Developmental Math with this approach? Do you guys have any advice for me as far as maybe activities for the kids or advice for me?

These are Freshmen/Sophomores at a 4 year University. It's Beginning and Intermediate Algebra.

I'm having a really hard time covering the material in 2 50 minute sessions per week. I'm having to blaze through the material and these are students who have always struggled with Math. If I slow down, then I'll get behind and I won't cover all of the required material.

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Can you redistribute the "lecture" part of instruction, so that some of the "Lab" time is actually continued lecturing? About actual laboratory activity for Intermediate Algebra, laboratory work seems difficult to imagine for such a course. Since Intermediate Algebra gives learners more tools (once those tools are understood) than Introductory, you could use mathematical modeling exercises. You could create activities to give data generated in the lab class section, and you could take data from a variety of other sources. You can also find at least a small number of textbooks dedicated to modeling with functions for the level of intermediate Algebra.
 
I have no experience with a math "lab," since no such thing was offered when I was an undergraduate.

I suggest you take a look at the thread on Team Based Learning. Maybe this is something you could incorporate into your math lab to supplement the lecture? I'm hoping this will help with my anatomy course too...I have a similar problem of attendance dropping off from the labs because the course coordinator never bothered to include an attendance policy! :bugeye: So, when the students are all feeling overwhelmed with classes, guess which one they decide to skip? All I can think is that perhaps they'll change their minds about skipping the class when they take it again next year. :rolleyes:
 
happyg1, how is your class of beginning and intermediate algebra progressing? Do the students use textbooks in your 3-2-2 class which must remain IN the class, or can the students buy the book/s and bring them home? Are your students expected to do ALL of their coursework assignments in the classroom during class/lab time?
 
symbolipoint said:
Do the students use textbooks in your 3-2-2 class which must remain IN the class...?
How do you teach a class if students aren't allowed to bring their books home to study? :confused: Even if they do all their assignments in class (which I also think is a bad idea unless perhaps they are developmentally disabled or something and need the extra help of a teacher present when working on assignments), they should be able to take their book home to study.

Are your students expected to do ALL of their coursework assignments in the classroom during class/lab time?

Is that what is meant by a math lab? Just more time to do problems? But I think I see your point...if they have to do the work in school, if they don't have enough time in class, they're going to try to do it in another class. All the more reason to send them home with books. Kids learn at different paces. Those who need more time to work through a problem shouldn't have to cram that into a standard class period and keep up with faster classmates. That's not letting them learn the material, that's testing if they can learn it in a limited amount of time. I had friends in high school who could get most of their math homework done in study hall or during the lunch period so they didn't have to take it home with them. I couldn't. I'd work on it for hours at home trying to figure it out. In the end, we came out with similar grades on exams (sometimes I even did better than them). I just needed more time to learn it initially, but once I had it figured out, I REALLY understood it and did well on exams.
 
Hey,
The students have their books to take home. They can work on their HW at home.
The problem is that the "lab" is just a study hall and no one comes at all anymore. So the thing has turned into 2 50 minute lectures with 2 labs that no one goes to. It's hard to get through all of the material in 2 50 minute lectures per week with no lab backup.
CC
 

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