Is the Angle Between Vector A and Ax Less Than 90 Degrees When Alpha Exceeds 90?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the angle of vector A and its x-component Ax when the angle alpha exceeds 90 degrees. Participants are exploring the implications of this scenario in vector analysis.

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  • Participants are questioning whether the angle between Ax and vector A is less than 90 degrees when alpha exceeds 90 degrees. There are attempts to visualize the geometric relationships involved, particularly concerning the orientation of the vectors and their components.

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Multiple interpretations of the angle relationships are being explored, with some participants providing clarifications about the lines and angles involved. There is a recognition of the need for clearer visualization, and some guidance has been offered regarding the geometric setup.

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There is mention of a specific figure (2-26 (a)) that is referenced for visual context, but the details of this figure are not provided in the discussion. Participants are also navigating the complexities of vector components and their orientations in relation to the axes.

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if the alpha is larger than 90 degree ( which means the resultant F is lean towards -x axis , then the angle between the Ax and the line from Ax to A will be less than 90 , am i right ?

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No. It will be exactly 90##^\circ##

(the 90##^\circ## as indicated in figure 2-26 (a) )
 
BvU said:
No. It will be exactly 90##^\circ##

(the 90##^\circ## as indicated in figure 2-26 (a) )
why , i can't visualize it??
 
BvU said:
No. It will be exactly 90##^\circ##

(the 90##^\circ## as indicated in figure 2-26 (a) )
If the force is lean towards negative x-axis , it means the angle between the force and positive x -axis is more than 90 degree, right ? then how is it possible for it to remain 90 degree?
 
You were talking about the line from Ax to A, not about the line from the origin to A (i.e. ##\vec A## itself).
 
BvU said:
You were talking about the line from Ax to A, not about the line from the origin to A (i.e. ##\vec A## itself).
ya , i mean the line from Ax to A, not about the line from the origin to A (i.e. A⃗ itself).
if the force is lean towards the negative x-axis then the , we would have three line , right , namely the line joining origin to Ax , A(which is lean towards negative x-axis ) , and a line which join A to negative x-axis , right ? if it is so , then the i an undersatnd why the angle is 90 degree. if it so , the triangle formed is at opposite of the current one .
 
I think you've got it all right and correct, just that the wording in post #1 was rather unfortunate.
With nowadays visualization possibilities it's almost a stone-age approach to put things in words, but let's do it anyway:

let's look in the blue plane of figure 2-26 (a) for the case ##\alpha \in [\pi/2, \pi]## where all the angles in our story are
[edit] I mean to say that all the angles are in that plane. Sorry for the ambiguity.​

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so the vertical line Ayz is in the yz plane and that plane is perpendicular to the x axis.

and as you can see the line from Ax to A (the green line) is parallel to that plane and therefore also perpendicular to the x axis. Hence my 90 ##^\circ##.

You of course in your post #1 meant to refer to the angle between ##\vec A## and ##\vec A_x## which as you can see is ##\pi-\alpha ## and thereby in the range 0 to 90##^\circ##.

Note that I forgot to draw the arrow above ##\vec A_x## and ##\vec A_{yz}##. Nobody is perfect, be we keep trying.
To be specific: in ##\vec A_x = A_x\, \hat\imath\ ##, ##\ A_x## is a number (negative for the alpha in the picture: ##A_x = |\vec A | \cos\alpha##​
 
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