Is the axiom for addition in the set of polynomials of degree >=3 true?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of a set of polynomials of degree greater than or equal to three, specifically examining whether this set forms a vector space under the operations of polynomial addition and scalar multiplication.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to verify if the sum of two polynomials of degree at least three remains within the same set, questioning the textbook's assertion that it does not.
  • Participants explore specific polynomial examples to illustrate their reasoning, including cases where the degrees of the polynomials differ.
  • Some participants suggest finding a counterexample to demonstrate the claim about the vector space properties.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants actively questioning the validity of the axioms related to polynomial addition. There is no explicit consensus yet, as different interpretations and examples are being explored.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the polynomials must be of degree three or higher, and they are examining the implications of this constraint on the vector space properties.

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Determine if this is a vector space with the indicated operations

the set of V of all polynominals of degree >=3, togehter iwth 0, operations of P (P the set of polynomials)

now all the scalar multiplication axioms hold.
the text however says that the axion
[tex]\mbox{For u,v} \in V, \mbox{then} \ u+v \in V[/tex] does not hold

well ok take two polynomials
[tex]u(x) = a_{3} x^3 + ... + a_{n} x^n[/tex]
[tex]v(x) = b_{3} x^3 + ... + b_{k} x^k[/tex]
where both n,k>= 3, then suppose k< n
[tex]u(x) + v(x) = (a_{3} + b_{3}) x^3 + ... + (a_{k} + b_{k}) x^k + ... + a_{n} x^n[/tex]
which is certainly a polynomial or degree >= 3 isn't it?
It also applies for n<k and n = k
is the textbook wrong?
 
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What is the degree of the following poly

x^4+1

now, do you see your error?
 
ok let me correct that then
n,k >= 3
[tex]u(x) = a_{0} + a_{1} x + ... + a_{n} x^n[/tex]
[tex]v(x) = b_{0} + b_{1} x + ... + b_{k} x^k[/tex]
then for n< k
[tex]u + v = (a_{0} + b_{0}) + ... + (a_{k} + b_{k}) x^k + ... + a_{n} x^n[/tex]

stil lseems to be of degree three to me
however if k=n and an= -bn then the polynomial is no more degree 3
is this corret?
 
Why don't you just find a counter example? two polys of degree 3 or greaterwhose sum isn't? A single counter examplem suffices.
 

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