Is the electromagnetic propagation time asymmetrical?

In summary, the conversation discusses the time symmetry of the propagation of E and H fields in a point in space. It is determined by the direction of the cross product vector E x H, which remains the same under time reversal. However, the sign of H changes, leading to a change in the direction of energy propagation. This phenomenon can be simulated using time symmetrical laws and is related to Feynman diagrams. It is also noted that knowing the values of the fields at a certain instant does not prevent predicting the future propagation of the wave.
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calinvass
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For a point in space if we have the values of E and H fields at a certain instant of time, we can tell the direction of the propagation of these values, which is the direction of the cross product vector E x H. Is this phenomenon time asymmetric or not ?
 
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The phenomenon is time symmetric. Don't forget that H changes sign under time reversal.
 
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If we change the arrow of time the propagation direction will be given by H x E, but basically the waves will propagate the same way. Is that what you meant? A world where S=H x E would be indistinguishable our world.
However, this doesn't mean that if we know the values of the fields at an instant, we can't predict the future propagation of the wave.

It seems that the apparent arrow of time at a macroscopic level can be simulated using time symmetrical laws.
 
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calinvass said:
If we change the arrow of time the propagation direction will be given by H x E, but basically the waves will propagate the same way. Is that what you meant?
No, under time reversal the direction of energy flow is still given by E x H, but H changes sign so the direction of energy propagation changes sign.
 
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Why doesn't E change direction ?
 
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Charge does not change sign under time reversal, but current does. Then Maxwell's equations dictate the sign of the fields from that (consider Coulomb's law and the Biot Savart law respectively to see it in the simplest cases)
 
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Alright, Thanks.
That reminds me of Feynman diagrams.
 

FAQ: Is the electromagnetic propagation time asymmetrical?

1. What is electromagnetic propagation time asymmetry?

Electromagnetic propagation time asymmetry refers to the phenomenon where the time it takes for an electromagnetic wave to travel from one point to another is not the same in both directions. This means that the wave takes longer to travel from point A to point B than it does to travel from point B to point A.

2. What causes electromagnetic propagation time asymmetry?

Electromagnetic propagation time asymmetry is caused by the presence of a medium through which the wave travels. This medium can affect the speed of the wave in one direction more than the other, leading to a difference in propagation time.

3. How does electromagnetic propagation time asymmetry affect communication?

Electromagnetic propagation time asymmetry can cause delays in communication, especially in situations where the medium through which the signal travels is constantly changing. This can lead to errors in data transmission and affect the overall efficiency of communication systems.

4. Is electromagnetic propagation time asymmetry a constant phenomenon?

No, electromagnetic propagation time asymmetry is not a constant phenomenon. It can vary depending on the properties of the medium through which the wave travels and can also be affected by external factors such as temperature and pressure.

5. How is electromagnetic propagation time asymmetry measured?

Electromagnetic propagation time asymmetry is typically measured using specialized equipment such as oscilloscopes or time delay devices. These devices can measure the time difference between the arrival of a signal at two different points and determine the extent of asymmetry.

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