Is the Euclidean Topology of ℝn First Countable?

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The discussion revolves around the first countability of the Euclidean topology on ℝn, specifically examining whether a countable neighborhood basis exists at a point, in this case, at 5. The original poster presents an attempt to demonstrate this property using open balls defined by rational radii.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster suggests that the set of open balls with rational radii forms a neighborhood basis, questioning the proof's rigor and expressing some uncertainty about the level of detail required. Participants discuss the necessity of specifying that the radius must be both rational and positive, and the implications of the density of the rationals in this context.

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Some participants provide feedback on the original poster's proof, indicating that it is generally sound but requires minor clarifications. The conversation acknowledges the nested neighborhood basis proposed by the original poster while also addressing typographical errors and the reasoning behind the choice of rational numbers.

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The discussion includes considerations about the definitions and properties of neighborhood bases in topology, as well as the implications of using rational numbers in constructing such bases. There is an emphasis on ensuring clarity in mathematical statements and proofs.

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Homework Statement


Let X:=ℝn with the Euclidean Topology. Is X first countable? Find a nested neighborhood basis for X at 5.


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If X is a topological space and p[itex]\in[/itex]X, a collection [itex]B[/itex]p of neighborhoods of p is called a neighborhood basis for X at p if every neighborhood of p contains some B[itex]\in[/itex][itex]B[/itex]p.

We say X is first countable if there exists a countable neighborhood basis at each point.


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I say yes.
Let p[itex]\in[/itex]X, the set of open balls Br(p) for r being rational forms a neighborhood basis at p. (That is, for all neighborhoods U of p, there is a Br(p)[itex]\subseteq[/itex]U)
Since p was arbitrary and this [itex]B[/itex]p is countable (since rationals are countable), X is first countable.

As well, we can just let the nest interval be defined as: B(1/2)i(5) for i being a natural number. Thus, B(1/2)i+1(5)<B(1/2)i(5).

I am struggling a bit at this level of proof honestly, and I'm trying to stay afloat. Thank you!
 
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Your proof looks fine. Just a few nitpicking details: first, [itex]r[/itex] needs to be rational AND positive. Second, although it's pretty obvious, you might say a few words about why you can find an [itex]r[/itex] such that [itex]B_r(p) \subseteq U[/itex].

Your nested neighborhood basis at 5 is fine. Just one minor detail: instead of <, you want [itex]\subset[/itex].
 


Thank you!

Wouldn't it just be based on the density of the rationals?
Also, thank you for catching my typo :)
 


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