Is the Fourier integral applicable to find b_n?

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The discussion revolves around the applicability of the Fourier integral in deriving coefficients \( b_n \) from a sequence of numbers \( a_n \). Participants explore the validity of certain mathematical identities involving sums and delta functions, as well as the potential generalization of these identities through Fourier analysis.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the correctness of an identity involving sums of \( a_n e^{2\pi i E_n} \) and delta functions, suggesting a missing variable in the exponent.
  • Another participant proposes that the right-hand side should be integrated over the real line for the identity to hold.
  • A reference to signals notes is made, indicating a connection to Fourier transforms and series, though the participant expresses uncertainty about the proof of the identity.
  • One participant suggests testing the identity with specific examples, indicating that while certain cases hold true, generalizing with arbitrary coefficients may not be valid.
  • Another participant confirms a specific identity involving the sum of exponentials equating to a sum of delta functions but questions the generalization to include arbitrary coefficients.
  • A participant introduces a potential generalization of the identity involving \( a_n \) and \( b_n \), linking it to functional equations for Dirichlet series and the Riemann Zeta function.
  • Another participant proposes a formula for \( b_n \) using a Fourier integral, suggesting a relationship with the derivative operator and partial sums of \( a_n \).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the validity of the proposed identities and their generalizations. There is no consensus on the applicability of the Fourier integral for finding \( b_n \), and multiple competing views remain on the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in the proposed identities, including the need for specific conditions or definitions to hold true. The discussion remains open-ended regarding the relationships between \( a_n \) and \( b_n \) and the implications for Dirichlet series.

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for every sequence of numbers a_n E_n is this identity correct ?

[tex]\sum_{n= -\infty}^{\infty}a_n e^{2\pi i E_{n}}= \sum_{n= -\infty}^{\infty}a_n \delta (x-E_{n})[/tex]
 
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Clearly it isn't (and I assume that you mean to have an x in the exponent on the LHS).
 
Perhaps you meant to integrate the RHS over the real line?
 
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I suspect I know who this poster is, and the same advice I've given repeatedly still applies: have you tried it for any examples? Eg a_i=0 for i=/=0 and a_0=1, E_0=0, then the LHS is 1 and the RHS is d(x) (d for delta)...
 
This is true

[tex]\sum_{n=-\infty}^{+\infty} e^{i 2 \pi n x} = \sum_{k=-\infty}^{+\infty} \delta(x-k)[/tex]

but to generalize it with arbitrary coefficients (that are placed on both sides) is not a true equality.
 
rbj and matt were right only this

[tex] \sum_{n=-\infty}^{+\infty} e^{i 2 \pi n x} = \sum_{k=-\infty}^{+\infty} \delta(x-k) [/tex] (1)

is correct , however my question is if using Fourier analysis we could generalized to an identity

[tex] \sum_{n=-\infty}^{+\infty}a_{n} e^{i 2 \pi n x} = \sum_{k=-\infty}^{+\infty} b_{n}\delta(x-k) [/tex]

where the a_n and b_n are related by some way , this is interesting regarding an article of Functional equation for Dirichlet series, using (1) the author was able to proof the functional equation for Riemann Zeta, my idea was to develop a functional equation for almost every dirichlet series to see where they have the 'poles'
 
If we have in the general case

[tex]\sum_{n=-\infty}^{+\infty}b_{n} e^{i 2 \pi n x} = D A(x)[/tex]

Where A(x) is the partial sum of a_n and D is the derivative operator , in case A(x)=[x] we recover usual delta identity , then i believe we can calculate b_n by the Fourier integral

[tex]b_n = \int_{0}^{1} dx DA(x) e^{-2i\pi x}[/tex]
 

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