Is the internal energy of a gas a combination of kinetic and potential energy?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of internal energy in gases, specifically whether it comprises solely kinetic energy or includes potential energy as well. The original poster questions the relationship between internal energy and the potential energy involved in phase changes, such as from liquid to gas.

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  • The original poster explores the definitions of internal energy, questioning whether it includes potential energy in addition to kinetic energy, particularly in the context of state changes. Some participants discuss the implications of ideal gas assumptions on potential energy.

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Participants have engaged in clarifying the definitions and assumptions surrounding internal energy. While some guidance has been offered regarding the ideal gas scenario, there is no explicit consensus on the broader implications of potential energy in real gases.

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The discussion touches on the complexities of internal energy definitions, particularly in relation to phase changes and the assumptions made for ideal gases. There may be constraints related to the original poster's understanding of these concepts.

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[SOLVED] Internal energy of a gas

Is the internal energy of a gas simply the total kinetic energy possesed by the particles? I ask this, since I have read this to be the case, however I have also read that when changing state, eg. from liquid to gas, the latent heat is the energy required to increase the potential energy of the particles, as well as do work against external pressure. If energy is put into increase the potential energy, surely some of the internal energy of the gas is potential energy, as well as kinetic energy, isn't it?

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nokia8650 said:
surely some of the internal energy of the gas is potential energy, as well as kinetic energy, isn't it?
You are indeed correct. The internal energy of a gas can be thought of as the sum of the kinetic and potential energies of the constituent molecules. However, note that for the special case of an ideal gas, it is assumed that the molecules do not interact, i.e. there is no potential energy. Hence, for an ideal gas the internal energy is the kinetic energy of the molecules, since there is no potential component.

Further reading: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/thermo/inteng.html"

I hope that makes sense.
 
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Thank you ever so much, it makes a lot more sense now!
 
nokia8650 said:
Thank you ever so much, it makes a lot more sense now!
A pleasure :smile:

Don't forget to mark this thread a 'solved' when your done, thanks.
 

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