Is the Momentum Operator Hermitian? A Proof

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the Hermitian nature of the momentum operator in quantum mechanics, specifically examining its mathematical properties and proofs. Participants explore definitions, adjoints, and the implications of integration by parts in the context of this operator.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the momentum operator is defined as ##p=-i\frac{d}{dx}## and question the correctness of its adjoint being ##p^\dagger=i\frac{d}{dx}##.
  • Others clarify the definition of an autoadjoint operator and argue that the momentum operator can be shown to be autoadjoint using this definition.
  • A mathematical proof is presented in post #3, demonstrating the relationship between the momentum operator and its adjoint through integration by parts.
  • Some participants express confusion regarding the proof and seek assistance in understanding the steps involved, particularly regarding the factor of ##i\hbar##.
  • It is noted that the proof in post #3 is valid only for functions that vanish at the boundary, which raises questions about the rigor of the argument presented.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correctness of the adjoint of the momentum operator and the validity of the proof provided. There is no consensus on the interpretation of the mathematical steps or the conditions under which the proof holds.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on boundary conditions for the validity of the proof and the varying levels of rigor expected in mathematical versus physical arguments.

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How momentum is Hermitian
Momentum operator is ##p=-i\frac{d}{dx}## and its adjoint is ##p^\dagger=i\frac{d}{dx}##. So, ##p^\dagger=-p##. How is the momentum Hermitian?
 
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Remember, the exact definition of an autoadjoint operator is that ##\left<\psi\right|\hat{p}\left|\phi\right>=\left<\phi\right|\hat{p}\left|\psi\right>^*##
You can check that with such a definition the momentum is really autoadjoint.
You can prove indeed that ##\left(\frac{d}{dx}\right)^\dagger = -\frac{d}{dx}##
 
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write this\begin{align*}

(f, p g) = -i \hbar \int_D f^*(x) \frac{\partial g}{\partial x}(x)dx &= i\hbar \int_D \frac{\partial f^*}{\partial x}(x) g(x) dx - {\underbrace{\left[ i \hbar f^*(x) g(x) \right]}_{\overset{!}{=} \, 0}}^{\partial D} \\

&= \int_D \left( - i \hbar \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}(x) \right)^* g(x) dx \\

&= (p f, g)

\end{align*}
 
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hokhani said:
Momentum operator is ##p=-i\frac{d}{dx}## and its adjoint is ##p^\dagger=i\frac{d}{dx}##.
No, this is not correct. The correct equation is ##p^\dagger = (- i)^* \hbar \left( \frac{d}{dx} \right)^\dagger##. Then:

Gaussian97 said:
You can prove indeed that ##\left(\frac{d}{dx}\right)^\dagger = -\frac{d}{dx}##
Which means that ##p^\dagger = (- i)^* \hbar \left( \frac{d}{dx} \right)^\dagger = i \hbar \left(- \frac{d}{dx} \right) = - i \hbar \frac{d}{dx} = p##.
 
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Gaussian97 said:
You can prove indeed that ##\left(\frac{d}{dx}\right)^\dagger = -\frac{d}{dx}##
I can't prove it. Could you please help me with that?
 
please let ##L = \dfrac{d}{dx}## and re-write ##(f, Lg)## in the form ##(Mf, g)## and then tell what is ##M##
 
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hokhani said:
I can't prove it. Could you please help me with that?
Post #3 is a proof of it. If the presence of the factor of ##i\hbar## in post #3 confuses you, just eliminate it; then you have a straightforward proof. The key to the proof is the sign flip that comes with the integration by parts.
 
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PeterDonis said:
Post #3 is a proof of it.
Note, btw, that the proof in post #3 is only valid for functions that vanish at the boundary, i.e., at infinity, so the boundary term in the integration by parts goes away. The usual argument is that any function that can actually be physically realized will have this property; this is what mathematicians often call (somewhat disdainfully) a physicist's level of rigor. :wink:
 
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