Tidal effect in the balance of Coulomb and nuclear forces?

In summary, it is difficult to study the balance of Coulomb and nuclear forces because it is too small an effect to measure. Strong magnetic and electric fields could have an effect, but they would have to be very strong to do so.
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In a heavy nucleus, the balance of the Coulomb and nuclear forces is a delicate one. This can be seen in two cases: First, in oblong deformed nuclei, alpha particle emission is more likely to occur at the poles, where the Coulomb barrier is thinner, than at the waist. Second, heavy synthetic isotopes are generally unstable because the attractive nuclear force is inadequate to compensate for Coulomb repulsion.

Is it possible to have a differential balance of Coulomb and nuclear forces at different ends of an axis that passes through the nucleus? Possible example: subject an atom of a heavy element to a strong magnetic field, and the electron orbitals will alter under the influence of the field, perhaps setting up asymmetric electron screening throughout the nucleus. If this example will not work, a more artificial scenario can be produced. In such a context, would the differential balance of Coulomb to nuclear forces have a destabilizing effect on the nucleus? Might it be possible to alter the rate of spontaneous fission, for example, in an isotope that has this as a decay mode?
 
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We cannot create electric or magnetic fields strong enough to alter nuclear properties in a measurable way. Sufficiently strong fields would have an effect, sure. The typical scale would be 1021 V/m (which doesn't work at all) or 1012 T (where it is unclear if fields that strong exist).
 
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Thank you, mfb, for the helpful reply. In order to better understand it, I'll ask a further question.

Consider a p electron orbital, which, roughly speaking, has the geometry of a dumbbell passing through the nucleus with a node at the origin. In the Rydberg case, I understand that it's straightforward to deform such an orbital with a magnetic field attainable in a laboratory. Is a much stronger magnetic field required to deform a p orbital in the ground state? (Significance: when a p orbital is deformed under a magnetic field, it no longer has axial symmetry, and hence there will be an asymmetry in electron density.) If the electron density in the nucleus from the p orbital electron is too small to consider, a similar scenario can be contemplated for an s-orbital electron.

Or is the point about the strength of magnetic and electric fields needed to alter nuclear properties addressing a different but related matter?
 
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The effect of electrons in the nucleus is small, and electromagnetic fields altering this effect a bit will have an even smaller impact.
 
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There do seem to be some elements where electron capture and presumably electric fields are significant.

"Around the elements in the middle of the periodic table, isotopes that are lighter than stable isotopes of the same element tend to decay through electron capture, while isotopes heavier than the stable ones decay by electron emission. Electron capture happens most often in the heavier neutron-deficient elements where the mass change is smallest and positron emission isn't always possible. When the loss of mass in a nuclear reaction is greater than zero but less than 2m[0-1e-], the process cannot occur by positron emission but is spontaneous for electron capture."

A long time ago I read there is one element which is radioactive when ionised but stable when not (or the other way round) but I can't find a reference.
 
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A long time ago I read there is one element which is radioactive when ionised but stable when not (or the other way round) but I can't find a reference.
Both options exist. They are quite obscure, however.

- Beryllium-7 can only decay via electron capture. Normally there are electrons around to capture, so it is radioactive. Remove all electrons from its environment and it cannot decay any more - it gets stable.
- A neutral dysprosium-163 atom is stable. If you remove all electrons, it can beta decay, where the electron stays in a low energy level. The energy is not sufficient to have the electron escape or occupy a higher energy level, which would be required for a decay of a neutral atom.
 
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Those of course are examples of weak decay channels; there are yet others as well: zirconium-89 and strontium-85 (via electron capture) and rhenium-187 (via beta decay). The referenced page agrees with mfb on the matter of strong decays, which is what we're considering here:
Alpha decay and spontaneous fission might also be affected by changes in the electron density near the nucleus, for a different reason. These processes occur as a result of penetration of the "Coulomb barrier" that inhibits emission of charged particles from the nucleus, and their rate is very sensitive to the height of the barrier. Changes in the electron density could, in principle, affect the barrier by some tiny amount. However, calculations show that the magnitude of the effect is very small. For a few alpha emitters, the change has been estimated to be of the order of 1 part in 107 or less (!), which is unmeasurable given that the alpha emitters' half lives aren't known to that degree of accuracy to begin with.

The author explains that the changes are estimated to be very small indeed. But I note the phrases "in principle," and "calculations" and "estimated." What I'm curious about is whether some kind of tidal effect from a differential balance of electron density along an axis passing through the nucleus was contemplated in those estimates and whether there have been any experimental investigations of a possible tidal effect on nuclides that decay via spontaneous emission.

It's possible the answer to both is "no," which is fine. I was just curious.
 
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You are looking at a tiny modification of an effect that is tiny already. Tiny2=negligible.
 
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I guess I was implicitly querying your assumption (and that of Bill Johnson, the author of the quote I excerpted) about the effect being tiny when asymmetry is involved. I suspect that if the matter has neither been explored theoretically nor investigated empirically, your assumption about a tiny modification of a tiny effect is merely a heuristic or a lucky guess. (Which is not to say that it's a bad heuristic or guess.)
 
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1. What is the tidal effect in the balance of Coulomb and nuclear forces?

The tidal effect is a phenomenon in which the gravitational forces between two objects cause a distortion in their shape. In the context of Coulomb and nuclear forces, it refers to the influence of the gravitational pull of a third object on the balance between these two forces.

2. How does the tidal effect affect the balance of Coulomb and nuclear forces?

The tidal effect can either strengthen or weaken the balance between Coulomb and nuclear forces, depending on the relative positions and masses of the objects involved. It can lead to changes in the strength of nuclear bonds, resulting in changes in the stability of atoms and molecules.

3. What are some examples of the tidal effect in the balance of Coulomb and nuclear forces?

One example is the Moon's tidal effect on the Earth's oceans, which causes the tides. Another example is the tidal locking of the Moon, where the Earth's tidal forces have caused the Moon to always show the same face to the Earth.

4. How is the tidal effect in the balance of Coulomb and nuclear forces measured?

The tidal effect can be measured by observing the changes in the strength of nuclear forces between two objects as their relative positions change due to the gravitational pull of a third object. These changes can be detected through precise measurements of atomic and molecular spectra.

5. What impact does the tidal effect have on our understanding of the universe?

The tidal effect plays a crucial role in shaping the structure of the universe. It helps explain the formation of large-scale structures such as galaxies and galaxy clusters. It also provides insights into the effects of gravity on the behavior of matter at a cosmic scale.

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