Is the Set Where Two Continuous Functions Agree Closed in a Hausdorff Space?

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The problem involves showing that the set where two continuous functions agree is closed in a topological space, specifically when the codomain is a Hausdorff space. The original poster attempts to explore the properties of the complement of this set and its implications.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss proving the set's closed nature by examining its complement and question the appropriateness of this approach. There is a focus on the implications of the Hausdorff property and the continuity of the functions involved.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to show that the complement is open, suggesting that the Hausdorff property of the codomain can be leveraged. There is recognition of the need for clarity in the reasoning regarding neighborhoods and intersections.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the nature of subsets and their topological properties, as well as the requirement to clarify certain definitions and assumptions in the proof process.

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Homework Statement


Let X be a topological space, Y a Hausdorff space, and let f:X -> Y and g:X -> Y be continuous. Show that {x [tex]\in[/tex] X : f(x) = g(x)} is closed. Hence if f(x) = g(x) for all x in a dense subset of X, then f = g.


Homework Equations


Y is Hausdorff => for every x, y in Y with x != y, there exist disjoint open sets U, V with x in U and y in V.
f continuous iff f-1(V) is open in X whenever V is open in Y, iff f-1(F) is closed whenever F is closed.

The Attempt at a Solution


I could show the set is closed by proving that its complement is open, but do I want to take that route? The complement is {x in X : f(x) != g(x)}. So is this itself a Hausdorff space? I'm not sure if this is the right way to go with this, or even if it's correct. Thanks, as always, for any help.
 
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The question "is this itself a Hausdorff space" is meaningless. It is not a space at all- it is a subset of a topological space. (You can make it a topological space by using the "inherited" topology but surely that's not what you want to do. You want to show that it is closed in X but every set is closed in its own inherited topology.) In any case, the set of all {x| f(x)= g(x)} or {x| f(x)!= g(x)} is a subset of X, not Y, and you are not given that X is hausdorff.
 
Yes. Show {x:f(x)!=g(x)} is open. Start by using that f(x) and g(x) are in Y and Y is Hausdorff.
 
Dick said:
Yes. Show {x:f(x)!=g(x)} is open. Start by using that f(x) and g(x) are in Y and Y is Hausdorff.

Ok, if I use that fact, then if f(x) != g(x), there exist subsets U, V disjoint and open with f(x) in U and g(x) in V. Since f is continuous, f-1(U) is open in X (because U is open in Y). Similarly, g-1(V) is open in X (because V is open in Y). Thus {x in X | f(x) != g(x)} is open, and it's complement, {x in X | f(x) = g(x)} is closed.

Is this correct, or am I missing something?
 
The conclusion is correct. You didn't state exactly why this means that x has a open neighborhood where f!=g. I understand it and I think you understand it. You might just want to be a little more explicit.
 
Dick said:
The conclusion is correct. You didn't state exactly why this means that x has a open neighborhood where f!=g. I understand it and I think you understand it. You might just want to be a little more explicit.

Is it basically by definition? Since f is continuous, f-1(N) is a neighborhood of x for every neighborhood N of f(x). Maybe I don't understand it, heh.
 
steelphantom said:
Is it basically by definition? Since f is continuous, f-1(N) is a neighborhood of x for every neighborhood N of f(x). Maybe I don't understand it, heh.

Maybe you don't quite understand it. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt for the gap in the proof. You have that f^(-1)(U) and f^(-1)(V) are both open neighborhoods of x. What about their intersection? Is it also an open neighborhood of x? If so, then can you show that if z is an element of the intersection, then f(z)!=g(z)? That would mean f!=g is open.
 

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