Is the Universe's Expansion Slowing Down or Speeding Up?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of the universe's expansion, specifically whether it is slowing down or speeding up. Participants explore concepts related to gravitational forces, dark energy, and the implications of redshift observations from distant galaxies. The scope includes theoretical considerations and interpretations of observational data.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the universe's expansion is slowing down due to the gravitational attraction of matter.
  • Others argue that the expansion is actually speeding up, citing redshift observations from distant galaxies as evidence.
  • One participant mentions a general consensus that the universe is speeding up, attributing this to an unknown force referred to as "dark matter," which is later corrected to "dark energy."
  • Another participant proposes that the universe experiences both deceleration and acceleration, with gravitational deceleration dominating in the past and dark energy's influence increasing over time.
  • Discussion includes the idea that the universe's shape (flat, curved in, or curved out) could affect the expansion dynamics, with general relativity predicting a consistent acceleration that does not align with some observations.
  • One participant references the Permutter supernova papers as a significant contribution to the understanding of cosmic acceleration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the universe's expansion is slowing down or speeding up, with no clear consensus reached. Some support the idea of acceleration, while others highlight gravitational effects that suggest deceleration.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss various models and theories, including the roles of dark energy and gravitational forces, without resolving the complexities or assumptions involved in these concepts.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring cosmology, astrophysics, and the dynamics of the universe's expansion.

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I have read that the present expansion of the univesre is slowing down, due to the gravitational attraction of the matter in contains.

Other times, I read that the expansion of the univesre is actually speeding up. For instance, light from the more distant galaxies are redshifted more than closer galaxies?

Which idea is thought to be true?
 
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I think the general consensus is that the universe is speeding up due to an unknown force which we call "dark matter."
 
what said:
I think the general consensus is that the universe is speeding up due to an unknown force which we call "dark matter."

Wouldn't matter, even "dark" matter, only further halt the expansion?

Maybe you meant dark energy?
 
Hi Holocene, yes what meant dark energy.

An easy way to think about it is that the universe is both decelerating and accelerating at the same time. In the past the deceleration dominated the acceleration; in late times the acceleration dominates the deceleration.

The gravitational deceleration parameter remains constant over time: gravity continues to assert a slowing force. But the total amount of dark energy increases in direct proportion to the amount of volume in the universe, since every cubic meter of "new" space adds to the cosmological constant. Since effective gravity decreases at a rate of r-2 while total dark energy increases at a rate of r3, it's only a matter of time until the effect of dark energy comes to overwhelmingly dominate the effect of gravity. That's the phase we are in now.

Jon
 
Holocene, I hope to get you to ask more questions. Generally, a galaxy sufficiently far away has been moving away from us at the same speed for the entire life of the universe. There are exceptions to this. The three biggies are inflation, acceleration and shape. Inflation affected the early universe and has very little effect today.

The shape of the universe is often described as very flat and may be perfectly flat. Flat means galaxies move away from each other at a steady speed. If it’s not flat, it’s either curved in like a ball and will someday collapse in on itself or it’s curved out like a potato chip or saddle. If it’s curved in, that other galaxy will slow down at a steady rate and eventually stop and then head towards us. When we collide, we will collide with every other galaxy. It’s the opposite of the Big Bang.

So you might thing that a saddle shaped universe would explain the acceleration. But no. General Relativity predicts a smooth, consistent acceleration. And that’s not what’s observed. Instead, it looks like the acceleration kicked in a little more recently.
 
Holocene said:
I have read that the present expansion of the univesre is slowing down, due to the gravitational attraction of the matter in contains.

Other times, I read that the expansion of the univesre is actually speeding up. For instance, light from the more distant galaxies are redshifted more than closer galaxies?

Which idea is thought to be true?

The acceleration is speeding up.
 
Acceleration is the consensus view these days. The Permutter supernova papers [e.g., http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/9812133 and http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/9812473] are the gold standard to date.
 
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