Is there a faster way to do this matrix problem?

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The discussion revolves around verifying that two similar matrices, \mathbf{A} and \mathbf{\hat{A}} = \mathbf{P}^{-1}\mathbf{A}\mathbf{P}, share the same spectrum, specifically their eigenvalues. The original poster expresses concern about the complexity of the process involved in finding eigenvalues and eigenvectors, particularly when using computational methods versus manual calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the process of finding eigenvalues through the characteristic equation and the challenges faced in manual calculations. There are attempts to simplify the understanding of the relationship between eigenvalues and the transformation of matrices. Questions arise about the implications of the transformation and the meaning of the eigenvectors in this context.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the matrix transformation and its implications for eigenvalues. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the eigenvectors of \mathbf{A} and the transformed matrix \mathbf{B}, but clarity on the connection remains elusive for some participants.

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There is an emphasis on the difficulty of the calculations involved, particularly with respect to potential errors in arithmetic during manual computations. The original poster's frustration with the process suggests a need for clearer understanding of the concepts at play.

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Is there a faster way to do this matrix problem??

Homework Statement



Verify that \mathbf{A} and \mathbf{\hat{A}} = \mathbf{P}^{-1}\mathbf{A}\mathbf{P} have the same spectrum.

Homework Equations



\mathbf{A} =<br /> \left[<br /> \begin{array}{ccc}<br /> -22 &amp; 20 &amp; 10 \\<br /> -4 &amp; 20 &amp; -8 \\<br /> 28 &amp; -14 &amp; 29 \\<br /> \end{array} \right]

\mathbf{P} =<br /> \left[<br /> \begin{array}{ccc}<br /> 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 2 \\<br /> 0 &amp; 2 &amp; 4 \\<br /> 2 &amp; 8 &amp; 0 \\<br /> \end{array} \right]

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The problem is asking whether two similar matrices have the same set of eigenvalues.

Conceptually, I would first find the eigenvalues of A, by finding the characteristic equation, which will be a cubic equation resulting in 3 eigenvalues as the solutions. In this case, I used a computer to find \lambda = 36, 18, -27. I then find the eigenvectors of A to verify that the matrix P represents the eigenvectors of A.

After that, I would compute the inverse of P using Gauss-Jordan elimination, then multiply the matrices out to find the similarity transform of A. Then, I would do the same method previously stated to find the eigenvalues of A.

My question is: Is there ANY nice, fast way to do all of this by hand? This seems like an extremely arduous process. The first time I found the eigenvectors of A, it resulted in filling up a page with text 4 times (then erasing) and finally getting the right answer on the 5th attempt, purely due to my error rate with the arithmetic.

I surely must not be properly understanding the concept if I am doing all this work to achieve the answers.
 
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so say
B = P^{-1}A P

then
B P^{-1}= P^{-1}A

now multiply by an eigenvector of A, u:
B P^{-1}u = P^{-1} A u
B P^{-1}u = P^{-1} \lambda u

now consider what P^{-1}u represents
 


lanedance said:
so say
(1) B = P^{-1}A P

then
(2) B P^{-1}= P^{-1}A

now multiply by an eigenvector of A, u:
(3) B P^{-1}u = P^{-1} A u
(4) B P^{-1}u = P^{-1} \lambda u

now consider what P^{-1}u represents

For the second part, you are making (3) and (4) into another eigenvalue problem?

P^{-1}u, if u is one of the three eigenvectors of A, the solution to P^{-1}u will be either

\left[\begin{array}{c}<br /> 1 \\<br /> 0 \\<br /> 0 \\<br /> \end{array}\right],\left[\begin{array}{c}<br /> 0 \\<br /> 1 \\<br /> 0 \\<br /> \end{array}\right],\left[\begin{array}{c}<br /> 0 \\<br /> 0 \\<br /> 1 \\<br /> \end{array}\right]

I don't know what that's really telling me, because that's just a shortened form of the original \mathbf{P}^{-1}\mathbf{A}\mathbf{P} which describes the behavior for three of the eigenvectors. Multiply by the corresponding lambda, and it would result in a diagonal matrix of the eigenvalues.
 
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Consider what (P^-1u) means to B
 


lanedance said:
Consider what (P^-1u) means to B

I'm sorry. I don't see what it means to B. I'm not seeing the connection.
 


He is suggesting that if v is an eigenvalue of A, such that Av= \lambda v, and you define u= Pv Then
v= P^{-1}u[/itex] so Av= AP^{-1}u= \lambda v= \lambda P^{-1}u= P^{-1}(\lambda u)<br /> <br /> Now Take P of both sides.
 

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