Is There a One-to-One Barrier with Motors and Generators?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of a "one-to-one barrier" in the context of motors and generators, particularly whether such a barrier exists and if it relates to energy output and input. Participants explore the implications of Newton's laws and the role of transformers in energy conversion.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the existence of a "one-to-one barrier" and seeks clarification on whether it implies that the energy output is equal to the input, referencing Newton's law of equal and opposite reactions.
  • Another participant asserts that no machine can produce more energy than is inputted, including transformers, which are said to have inefficiencies that prevent them from achieving over-unity performance.
  • A third participant expresses confusion about the term "one to one barrier" and suggests it might relate to the concept of unity in energy output versus input, and the impossibility of an over-unity machine.
  • There is a suggestion that the discussion may involve the idea of driving a generator with the motor it powers, which could relate to the concept being explored.

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Participants generally agree that machines, including transformers, do not produce more energy than is inputted, but there is no consensus on the term "one-to-one barrier" and its implications.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes uncertainties regarding the definition of the "one-to-one barrier" and its relationship to energy conversion in motors and generators. Participants express differing levels of familiarity with the concept, leading to varied interpretations.

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a concept came up that that there is a one to one barrier with motors and generators. Is there such a thing? the only i am aware of would be relative to Newtons law (egual and oppisite reaction) if you put a number in is that the only number you have out? or can it be increase ( i thought that was what transformers do, produce more energy than you put in?

i am lost on this theory and would like to know if it does extist and if there is a law or person i can look up to help me.
 
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I have no idea what you're talking about, but there is no such thing as a machine that produces more energy than is put into it, transformers included. :rolleyes:
 
Never heard of a "one to one barrier", let alone with regard to motors and generators.

Transformers certainly do NOT produce more energy than is put in. Like all other machines, they contain inefficiencies which reduce the energy output to less than the input.
 
I wonder if karae is referencing unity as being 1 to 1, and the impossibility of an over-unity machine.
It might be about trying to drive a generator with the motor that it's powering. :confused:
 

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