Is There a PEX Compatible Ground Union Fitting Available?

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Is there a ground union fitting that can be installed directly to PEX pipe?
Is there a "ground union" type of fitting that can be installed in PEX lines without requiring additional adapters that screw into the fitting?

I need to plumb a whole house sediment filter. Ideally, I like a union fitting that was PEX on one end and threaded on the other. This would allow me to re-do the connection to the filter housing if the first test showed it leaked. It would also allow easier replacment of the filter housing if that is ever needed.
 
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Sorry, I'm no expert on plumbing, but why would you need to ground PEX "pipe"? It's non-conductive, no? The fittings appear to be metal, but if the PEX pipe is non-conductive, it doesn't seem like grounding would do anything. Or are you using the term "ground union" for something other than electrical grounding?

https://www.bobvila.com/articles/pex-pipe/
 
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I'm using the terminology "ground union" because, on the web, I read that it's a particular type of union fitting. The adjective "ground" doesn't refer to an electrical ground. I'd actually be interested in any type of union fitting that was easy to install in a PEX line.
 
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https://www.supplyhouse.com/sh/control/search/~SEARCH_STRING=Pex%20adapter?searchText=Pex+adapter

Use “adapter” in your search term rather than “fitting”. Totally different results!
 
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chemisttree said:
Use “adapter” in your search term rather than “fitting”. Totally different results!

The problem is that "adapters" are not unions. A union is a fitting that can be unscrewed to allow easy replacement of whatever device ( valve, regulator etc) the union attaches.
 
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Maybe two adapters in series then? :smile:
 
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Your union goes on the appliance and would screw into the PEX adapter, then?
 
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chemisttree said:
Your union goes on the appliance and would screw into the PEX adapter, then?

It can be done that way. What I'd prefer is a union that had one side already adapted to PEX. An adapter wouldn't be needed. There would be one less joint to worry about.

In my recent plumbing experiences, brass-to-brass threaded connections are the most difficult to get leak free - even with teflon tape or thread sealant. If I attach a brass bodied pressure regulator in the middle of a PEX line using adapters on either end, then to tighten or re-do a leaking joint between the regulator and an adapter, I must first release the adapter from the PEX line by cutting the clamp that holds the PEX line and perhaps use a heat gun to get the PEX off the adapter.
 
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Perhaps behind-the-wall installations for regulators and temperature mixing valves are done with no thought of how to quickly replace them because of what you have experienced with leakage. But I can’t imagine a ground union would fare much better in that application but they do make quick connect PEX adapters. Sharkbite sells them.

https://www.sharkbite.com/resources/video/how-install-sharkbite-push-connect-fittings
 
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Page 13 of Sharkbite’s catalog has a water filter installation kit. Should be something there for your application.
 
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On this project ( entry of main water line, shut-off valves, pressure regulator, sediment filter) I plan to install everything in plain sight - nothing inside walls! I've used Sharkbite press-on fittings in a temporary role, but don't trust them long term.

As a digression: My experience with Sharkbite press-ons is they don't leak when applied to pipes that are new and round. On old copper pipe that is out-of-round, they may leak. They are not recommended for copper "tubing" - the copper sold in rolls - as opposed to copper "pipe" which is sold in straight lengths. The press-on fittings are not as easy to remove as is often portrayed on the internet. I bought special pliers-like tool to take them off.
 
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My opinion on plumbing fittings is to avoid anything that is uncommon. I try to find a way to make the connections using quite readily attainable fittings. If for some reason down the road I need to do a disassembly and ruin a fitting in doing so, it will be easier to find replacements. My 2¢.
 
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At one time, the mating parts in a ground union were ground together with a polishing compound to get a leak-tight metal-to-metal seal. This is still done to valve/valve seats in high performance automotive engines. These days I think unions are just machined with a flare to achieve a seal, but the name endures.
 
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These are readily available in the UK for a number of plastic pipe solutions e.g. https://media.screwfix.com/is/image//ae235?src=ae235/5653F_P (Hep2o is a PB system which I do not believe is permitted in the US) but you would need to find one suitable for your US supplied pipe.

If there is not a specific fitting available then use a compression adaptor to join the PEX pipe, using the correct insert (I assume this is allowed/available in the US?)
 

Related to Is There a PEX Compatible Ground Union Fitting Available?

1. What is a PEX compatible ground union?

A PEX compatible ground union is a type of plumbing fitting used to connect two sections of PEX piping together in a plumbing system. It is specifically designed to be used in underground applications, such as connecting PEX piping to a main water line or to a sprinkler system.

2. How is a PEX compatible ground union different from a regular PEX union?

A PEX compatible ground union is made with materials that are suitable for burial in soil, such as brass or stainless steel. It also has a thicker wall and is designed to withstand the pressure of being buried underground. Regular PEX unions are not suitable for underground use and may corrode or fail over time.

3. Can a PEX compatible ground union be used with other types of piping?

Yes, a PEX compatible ground union can be used to connect PEX piping to other types of piping, such as copper or PVC. However, it is important to ensure that the other type of piping is suitable for underground use as well.

4. How do I install a PEX compatible ground union?

To install a PEX compatible ground union, first make sure the area where it will be installed is free of debris and dirt. Next, use a PEX cutter to cut the PEX piping to the desired length. Then, use a crimping tool to attach the PEX piping to the union. Finally, bury the union in the ground, making sure it is securely connected to the other piping.

5. Are there any special considerations when using a PEX compatible ground union?

Yes, it is important to make sure the PEX piping is properly supported and protected from potential damage, such as from rocks or tree roots. It is also recommended to use a protective wrap or sleeve around the piping to prevent any potential damage from the surrounding soil. Additionally, it is important to follow all local building codes and regulations when installing a PEX compatible ground union.

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