Is There a Pooled Sample Mean Formula Similar to Pooled Variance?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mean and variance of credit scores for two groups: active companies and bankrupt companies. The original poster seeks to understand if there is a formula for a pooled sample mean, similar to the pooled variance they have already calculated.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between mean, total, and number of items in a dataset. There are attempts to reconstruct totals from known means and sample sizes. Questions arise about how to combine the means of two datasets without direct summation.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning assumptions about how to calculate the overall mean from two separate datasets. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to find the total for each dataset and the combined number of items, but no consensus has been reached on a specific method for calculating the mean.

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The original poster notes constraints regarding the assumption of normal distribution when combining the datasets, which influences their approach to calculating the mean and variance.

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We have variable X (Active companies with a credit score)
and variable Y (Bankrupt companies with a credit score)

The mean, variance, n etc for their credit scores are known for X and Y. (We are given a lot of information about these companies, but a lot of this information is irrelevant hence the "etc")


I am asked to find the mean and variance for both the bankrupt and active companies creditscores put together without adding the creditscores together.

I found the variance by using the pooled sample variance formula.
My problem is finding the mean. Is there such a thing as a pooled sample mean?

Thanks in advance
 
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If the mean of a dataset is m and there are n numbers in the dataset, what is the total of the numbers?
 
hmmm ... then n is sum of X divided by mean?
 
joe342 said:
hmmm ... then n is sum of X divided by mean?
Yes, but in this case you know the mean of each of two datasets and the number of data items in each, so you can reconstruct the total for each. Then you can calculate the mean of the combined dataset.
 
Aah .. so:
((sum of x)*(sum of Y)) / ((mean of X)*(mean of Y))?

(I have a similar assignment, but seems I did it wrong)
 
anonymousk said:
Aah .. so:
((sum of x)*(sum of Y)) / ((mean of X)*(mean of Y))?
Umm.. what do you think that would calculate?
 
Do i divide sum of X with mean of x, then divide sum of Y with mean of Y. Then what? Just add the sums together?
 
joe342 said:
Do i divide sum of X with mean of x, then divide sum of Y with mean of Y. Then what? Just add the sums together?
We don't seem to be on the same wavelength.
As I understand it, there are two datasets, X and Y. You know the mean of each and the number of data items in each. You are not told the sum of each.
In order to get the overall mean, you need (sum of all of X and Y combined)/(number items in X and Y combined), yes?
If that's all correct, how will you find (sum of all of X and Y combined) and (number items in X and Y combined)?
 
Well, in my case I have:

Mean, variance and n for the credit scores of active businesses (X)
and mean, variance and n for the credit scores of bankrupt business (Y)

I have to calculate the mean and variance for them put together (without adding them on top of each other. Says we can't assume they are normally distributed if they are added together.

So for the variance I used the pooled variance formula, but not sure how I'll go about calculating the mean
 
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anonymousk said:
Well, in my case I have:

Mean, variance and n for the credit scores of active businesses (X)
and mean, variance and n for the credit scores of bankrupt business (Y)

I have to calculate the mean and variance for them put together (without adding them on top of each other. Says we can't assume they are normally distributed if they are added together.

So for the variance I used the pooled variance formula, but not sure how I'll go about calculating the mean
Finding the mean of an aggregate of two sets of numbers has nothing to do with probability or distributions. It's really simple.
 

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