Is there a power-energy relationship between matter and energy?

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The discussion centers on the power-energy relationship derived from the mass-energy equivalence equation, E=mc². The equation presented, P = mc²/(2√(1-v²/c²))*2a, suggests that power is contingent upon acceleration, indicating that a particle at constant velocity does not expend power. Participants agree that while mass conversion to energy is not instantaneous, the concept of power becomes meaningless in this context due to the potential for infinite values. The conversation highlights the complexities of relating power to mass-energy conversion, particularly in high-speed scenarios.

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I was looking at the mass-energy relationship equation, which by taking the derivative I would think that you you should get a power-energy relationship. What I get is:

P = \frac{mc^2}{2\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}}*2a

If this were to be true, a particle without acceleration would have no power, and thus release no energy. Or, it could be that all of the energy is instantaneously released and shows no power. Can someone help me where I went wrong in this?
 
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You figured correctly: no power is expended to keep an object moving at constant speed in a lossless environment.
 
But is there any way of figuring the power produced by the destruction of mass, as in the mass-energy relationship?
 
So the conversion between matter and energy is not instantaneous then?
 
If it was, there would be infinite power for an infinitely short time.

Conversion of mass to energy means the mass would no longer exist.

When a photon is emitted, it does not accelerate, it moves at c instantaneously.

My guess is that the consideration of power in this case is not meaningful.
 
danielu13 said:
I was looking at the mass-energy relationship equation, which by taking the derivative I would think that you you should get a power-energy relationship. What I get is:

P = \frac{mc^2}{2\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}}*2a

A power energy relationship is time.

The derivative would be a power vs mass relationship.

I do find it an interesting thought.
 
danielu13 said:
So the conversion between matter and energy is not instantaneous then?
On a molecular or atomic level I think it is -- therefore power is meaningless because as said it would be infinite or undefined.

I have, however seen people calculate power using a propagation rate or reaction rate of even a very fast reaction such as in a bomb. It provides interesting hyperbole but I don't think it is really all that useful.
 
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