Is there a specific unit used to measure redshift?

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The discussion centers on the concept of redshift in cosmology, specifically addressing whether there is a specific unit used to measure redshift and its implications for studying distant galaxies. The conversation touches on theoretical aspects and practical applications related to upcoming astronomical projects.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the absence of a specific unit for measuring redshift, suggesting it would be beneficial for studying distant galaxies.
  • Several participants clarify that redshift is typically represented as 'z' and is dimensionless, as it is derived from the ratio of observed to emitted wavelengths.
  • One participant provides an example calculation of redshift, illustrating how it is calculated using wavelengths.
  • Another participant mentions that distance calculations based on redshift are complex due to the expanding universe, referencing online calculators for assistance.

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Participants generally agree that redshift is a dimensionless quantity represented by 'z', but the initial question about the need for a specific unit remains unresolved. There is no consensus on whether a unit would be beneficial or necessary.

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The discussion does not address potential limitations or assumptions regarding the application of redshift in cosmology or the complexities involved in distance calculations in an expanding universe.

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i have been learning about using redshift to measure the distance of far-flung objects, but in all my research i never saw a specific unit used to quantify how redshifted an object is. to me it seems like an oversight, because such a unit would be very useful for the study of distant galaxies, and which the impending launch of the james webb telescope and the E-ELT project underway (i think), it seems to me such a unit would be needed for these tools to be properly used. so has anybody bothered to quantify redshift, or am i the first person to think of this?
 
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Redshift in cosmology is usually labeled as 'z'. It is unit-less because you divide the units out when you compare the observed wavelength to the known source wavelength. So if we observe a wavelength of 1,000 nm from a source that we know must have emitted 500 nm light, then ##z=\frac{1000 nm}{500 nm}=2##.
 
Redshift is based on a ratio between wavelengths. As such it is dimensionless and does not need a unit.

Drakkith said:
Redshift in cosmology is usually labeled as 'z'. It is unit-less because you divide the units out when you compare the observed wavelength to the known source wavelength. So if we observe a wavelength of 1,000 nm from a source that we know must have emitted 500 nm light, then ##z=\frac{1000 nm}{500 nm}=2##.

The definition is ##1 + z = \lambda_o/\lambda_e##. For your example, the redshift would be ##z = 1## and ##z = 0## corresponds to no redshift at all.
 
Drakkith said:
Redshift in cosmology is usually labeled as 'z'. It is unit-less because you divide the units out when you compare the observed wavelength to the known source wavelength. So if we observe a wavelength of 1,000 nm from a source that we know must have emitted 500 nm light, then ##z=\frac{1000 nm}{500 nm}=2##.
that makes sense. i thought i was onto a big discovery, but i guess not. thanks for the help!
 
ASmartDude said:
that makes sense. i thought i was onto a big discovery, but i guess not. thanks for the help!
The distance, by the way, is calculated based upon a model of how the universe has expanded over time. There are some online calculators that will do this, such as this one:
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/CosmoCalc.html

It's unfortunately complicated, because distances are pretty complicated in an expanding universe.
 
Orodruin said:
The definition is ##1 + z = \lambda_o/\lambda_e##. For your example, the redshift would be ##z = 1## and ##z = 0## corresponds to no redshift at all.

Ah, my mistake. Thanks, Oro.
 

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