Is There a Way to Prove the Triangle Inequality for Absolute Values?

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The discussion revolves around proving the triangle inequality for absolute values, specifically the statement |x+y| ≤ |x| + |y|, with participants exploring various approaches and reasoning related to this mathematical property.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to prove the inequality through different methods, including direct testing with numbers, using properties of absolute values, and expanding squares. Questions arise about the validity of adding inequalities and the implications of certain steps in the proofs.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with multiple approaches being explored. Some participants provide guidance on the reasoning behind the steps taken, while others seek clarification on specific aspects of the proofs. There is a recognition of differing interpretations regarding the application of absolute value properties.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of the proof without a consensus on the most straightforward method. There are indications of confusion regarding the manipulation of inequalities and the assumptions made in the proofs.

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Homework Statement


Prove that |x+y|</|x|+|y|


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The Attempt at a Solution



Assume that x and y are real numbers.
|5+2|</|5|+|7|
7</7
|-5-2|</|-5|+|-2|
7</7

I know that it is true by testing different numbers, but I'm not sure how to prove it. Could someone please show me how or give me a hint?

Thank you very much
 
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since -|x|<x<|x|, and -|y|<y<|y| we add these to get

-|x|-|y|<x+y<|x|+|y|=>-(|x|+|y|)<x+y<|x|+|y|,

now from the abs value properties it immediately yeilds to:

|x+y|<|x|+|y| read ''<" as greater or equal to.
 
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Or we could prove it this way also: to prove it it is also sufficient to prove that

|x+y|^{2}\leq (|x|+|y|)^{2} ? so we have

|x+y|^{2}=(x+y)^{2}=x^{2}+2xy+y^{2}=|x|^{2}+2xy+|y|^{2}&lt;|x|^{2}+2|x||y|+|y|^{2}=(|x|+|y|)^{2}

hence we are done.
 
Thank you very much

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sutupidmath said:
-(|x|+|y|)<x+y<|x|+|y|,

now from the abs value properties it immediately yeilds to:

|x+y|<|x|+|y| read ''<" as greater or equal to.

Why do absolute value properties yield to |x+y|<|x|+|y| from -(|x|+|y|)<x+y<|x|+|y|? Could someone please explain this further?
 
I don't think its valid in general to add two inequalities like that. But if you accept up to there, then to see the final step is just seeing that if -A < a < A, then we can say |a| < A.
 
Correction and sincere apologies to sutupidmath, you CAN add inequalities as long as they are pointing the same same direction which in this case in true. And that goes to make an extremely simple proof!
 
I think vrdfx wasn't asking how -|x|<x<|x| + -|y|<y<|y| = -|x|-|y|<x+y<|x|+|y| => -(|x|+|y|)<x+y<|x|+|y| , but how -(|x|+|y|)<x+y<|x|+|y| yields |x+y|<|x|+|y|.

Does -(|x|+|y|) = |x+y| or something? I don't see how it could...
 

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