Is there an image of the popularity of various fields of physics over time?

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The discussion revolves around the possibility of analyzing trends in the popularity of various fields of physics over time, including particle physics, condensed matter physics, astrophysics, cosmology, and string theory. Participants explore how to quantify popularity and the implications of such trends for future specialization in physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the feasibility of quantifying popularity in physics fields and highlight the subjectivity involved in such an analysis.
  • One participant suggests that the number of published papers in each field could serve as a metric for assessing popularity.
  • Another participant notes that certain fields, like nuclear physics, appear to be declining in popularity, while others may be expanding, and emphasizes the importance of this information for future career decisions.
  • There is a discussion about the unpredictability of future trends and the potential futility of trying to gauge what will be popular in 10-15 years.
  • One participant expresses a personal interest in demographic data and acknowledges the subjective nature of the metrics but argues that they can still provide useful insights.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the value and feasibility of quantifying the popularity of physics fields. While some see potential in using metrics like publication counts, others remain skeptical about the overall usefulness of such an endeavor.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the limitations of their proposed metrics and the inherent subjectivity in assessing popularity. There is no consensus on how to effectively measure trends or predict future popularity in physics fields.

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E.g. Is there a way to see overall trends for particle physics, condensed matter physics, astrophysics, cosmology, and string theory?
 
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No. Seems like a pointless exercise anyways. How would you quantify popularity in an attempt to view a trend? How would you take into account the obvious subjectivity in the question?
 
Could you look at the number of papers published in each field? I'm a bit confused by the OP question.
 
Well, you know, some fields are rapidly expanding, and other fields are declining. Nuclear physics, for example, just doesn't seem as popular as it used to be (although fusion research might reignite interest in it). It's useful information for those of us who want to think about a field to specialize in for the future. Some fields are creating new positions, while other fields are simply getting rid of positions with each retirement.
 
Simfish said:
Nuclear physics, for example, just doesn't seem as popular as it used to be

The cover (+Viewpoint) of this issue of PRL is a nuclear physics result. In fact, now that I think of it, I think you would be better served reading PRL regularly than trying to game the system.

Simfish said:
It's useful information for those of us who want to think about a field to specialize in for the future. Some fields are creating new positions, while other fields are simply getting rid of positions with each retirement.

Ah, you want to chase ambulances!

I'm afraid this is not useful information. You don't care about what's trendy now, you care about what's going to be trendy 10-15 years from now when you'll be looking for a position - after you've finished grad school and a postdoc or two. There's no way to tell - in fact, if you could predict the future that far ahead, there are far more lucrative professions out there. :biggrin:
 
Okay, those are good points. Anyways, I'm really just curious just for curiosity's sake (I'm obsessed with demographic data). Yeah, I know it's somewhat subjective. But there are various weights of metrics that you can still use. A degree of subjectivity in the metrics doesn't make it useless (similar thing with grad school rankings)
 

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