Is there any easy trick for solving this integral?

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The discussion revolves around techniques for solving a challenging integral that arises in the context of Green's Theorem for outward flux calculations. The integral in question is a double integral that has been simplified to a single integral form, prompting participants to explore various methods for evaluation, including substitutions, polar coordinates, and integration by parts.

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  • One participant expresses frustration with the complexity of the integral and mentions that previous attempts at substitutions and integration by parts have not been successful.
  • Another participant suggests using the substitution \(y = \sin \frac{x}{2}\) to transform the integral, leading to a new expression that may be easier to handle.
  • A different participant proposes converting the integral to polar coordinates, indicating that while this may simplify the initial setup, the process remains complicated.
  • One participant describes the process of integrating by parts and using partial fractions, detailing the steps involved and the challenges faced along the way.
  • Another participant mentions switching the order of integration as a potential method, suggesting that this could lead to a more manageable form of the integral.

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Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the best method for solving the integral, with multiple competing approaches being discussed. The complexity and challenges associated with each method are acknowledged, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

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Some participants note that the integral's evaluation is complicated by the oscillatory nature of the integrand and the need for careful consideration of limits when integrating over certain intervals.

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In the middle of an integral using Green's Theorem for an outward flux calculation, I came up to a really gross integral. The double integral started out as
$$\int_{-1}^{1}\int_{-\sqrt{1-y^2}}^{\sqrt{1-y^2}}\frac{2}{1+y^2}\,dx\,dy$$
and I got it down to
$$\int_{-1}^{1}\frac{4\sqrt{1-y^2}}{1+y^2}\,dy$$
I tried thinking of numerous substitutions and by parts strategies...nothing seemed to work. I consulted wolframalpha and it gave me a solution using I think something like 4 substitutions and partial fractions which I would really rather not go through.
Any other ideas? Or is this just a terrible integral one would prefer to avoid?
 
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skatenerd said:
In the middle of an integral using Green's Theorem for an outward flux calculation, I came up to a really gross integral. The double integral started out as
$$\int_{-1}^{1}\int_{-\sqrt{1-y^2}}^{\sqrt{1-y^2}}\frac{2}{1+y^2}\,dx\,dy$$
and I got it down to
$$\int_{-1}^{1}\frac{4\sqrt{1-y^2}}{1+y^2}\,dy$$
I tried thinking of numerous substitutions and by parts strategies...nothing seemed to work. I consulted wolframalpha and it gave me a solution using I think something like 4 substitutions and partial fractions which I would really rather not go through.
Any other ideas? Or is this just a terrible integral one would prefer to avoid?

With the substitution $y= \sin \frac{x}{2}$ the integral becomes... $\displaystyle I= 2\ \int_{- \pi}^{\pi} \frac{\cos ^{2} \frac{x}{2}}{1 + \sin^{2} \frac{x}{2}}\ dx = 2\ \int_{- \pi}^{\pi} \frac{1+ \cos x}{3 - \cos x}\ dx $ (1)

... and (1) can be solved using complex analysis approach...

Kind regards$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
skatenerd said:
In the middle of an integral using Green's Theorem for an outward flux calculation, I came up to a really gross integral. The double integral started out as
$$\int_{-1}^{1}\int_{-\sqrt{1-y^2}}^{\sqrt{1-y^2}}\frac{2}{1+y^2}\,dx\,dy$$
and I got it down to
$$\int_{-1}^{1}\frac{4\sqrt{1-y^2}}{1+y^2}\,dy$$
I tried thinking of numerous substitutions and by parts strategies...nothing seemed to work. I consulted wolframalpha and it gave me a solution using I think something like 4 substitutions and partial fractions which I would really rather not go through.
Any other ideas? Or is this just a terrible integral one would prefer to avoid?

I can't think of an easy way to do this one. I think converting to polar coordinates may ease the pain at the start, but from what you'll see below, it's still quite a messy process.

If you plot the region that's defined by the bounds of integration, it's a circle of radius 1 centered at the origin in the $xy$-plane.

If you do the conversion to polar coordinates, we see that

\[\int_{-1}^1\int_{-\sqrt{1-y^2}}^{\sqrt{1-y^2}} \frac{2}{1+y^2}\,dx\,dy \xrightarrow{\text{polar coordinates}}{} \int_0^{2\pi} \int_0^1\frac{2r}{1+ r^2\sin^2\theta}\,dr\,d\theta\]

The first intergral can be evaluated by making the substitution $u=r^2\sin^2\theta$; then $\,du=2r\sin^2\theta\,dr\implies \dfrac{\,du}{\sin^2\theta}=2r\,dr$. Thus,

\[\int_0^{2\pi} \int_0^1\frac{2r}{1+r^2\sin^2\theta}\,dr\,d\theta \xrightarrow{u=r^2\sin^2\theta}{} \int_0^{2\pi}\int_0^{\sin^2\theta} \frac{1}{\sin^2\theta} \frac{\,du}{1+u}\,d\theta = \int_0^{2\pi} \frac{\ln(1+\sin^2\theta)}{\sin^2\theta} \,d\theta\]

Now here's where all the fun begins.

We proceed to integrate by parts (w/o limits of integration for the time being). Take $u=\log(1+\sin^2\theta)$ and $\,dv=\dfrac{\,d\theta}{\sin^2\theta}=\csc^2\theta\,d\theta$. Then $\,du=\dfrac{2\sin\theta\cos\theta}{1+\sin^2\theta}\,d\theta$ and $v=-\cot\theta$. Therefore,

\[\begin{aligned}\int \frac{\ln(1+\sin^2\theta)}{\sin^2\theta}\,d\theta &= -\cot\theta\ln(1+\sin^2\theta) + \int \frac{2\cot\theta\sin\theta\cos\theta}{ 1+\sin^2\theta}\,d\theta\\ &= -\cot\theta\ln(1+\sin^2\theta) +\int\frac{2\cos^2\theta}{1+\sin^2\theta}\,d\theta\end{aligned}\]

Now, to integrate $\displaystyle\int\frac{2\cos^2\theta}{ 1+\sin^2\theta}\,d\theta$, multiply top and bottom by $\sec^4\theta$ to get

\[\int\frac{2\sec^2\theta}{\sec^4\theta + \sec^2\theta\tan^2\theta}\,d\theta = \int\frac{2\sec^2\theta}{(\tan^2\theta+1)^2 + (\tan^2+ 1)\tan^2\theta}\,d\theta = \int\frac{2\sec^2\theta}{2\tan^4\theta +3\tan^2\theta + 1}\,d\theta\]

Now let $t=\tan\theta\implies \,dt=\sec^2\theta\,d\theta$. Therefore,

\[\int\frac{2\sec^2\theta}{2\tan^4\theta +3\tan^2\theta + 1}\,d\theta \xrightarrow{t=\tan\theta}{} \int\frac{2\,dt}{2t^4+3t^2+1} = \int\frac{2\,dt}{(2t^2+1)(t^2+1)}\]

If things aren't bad enough at this point, things just got worse; it's time to use partial fractions! XD

We first note that

\begin{align*}\frac{1}{(2t^2+1)(t^2+1)}=\dfrac{At+B}{2t^2+1} +\dfrac{Ct+D}{t^2+1} \implies 1 &= (At+B)(t^2+1) + (Ct+D)(2t^2+1) \\ \implies 1 &= At^3+Bt^2+At+B + 2Ct^3+2Dt^2+Ct+D\\ \implies 1 & = (A+2C)t^3+(B+2D)t^2 + (A+C)t + (B+D)\end{align*}

Thus, we solve the system of equations

\[\left\{\begin{aligned}A+2C &= 0\\ B+2D &= 0\\ A+C &= 0\\ B+D &= 1 \end{aligned}\right.\]

It's easy to show that $A=C=0$, $D=-1$ and $B=2$.

Therefore, \[\begin{aligned} \int\frac{2}{(2t^2+1)(t^2+1)}\,dt &= 2\left[\int\frac{2}{2t^2+1}\,dt - \int\frac{1}{t^2+1}\,dt\right]\\ &= 2\left[\sqrt{2}\int\frac{\sqrt{2}}{(\sqrt{2}t)^2+1}\,dt - \int\frac{1}{t^2+1}\,dt\right]\\ &= 2\left[\sqrt{2}\arctan(\sqrt{2}t) - \arctan(t)\right]+C\end{aligned}\]

Since $t=\tan\theta$, we have that

\[2\left[\sqrt{2}\arctan(\sqrt{2}\tan\theta) - \arctan(\tan\theta)\right]+C = 2\sqrt{2}\arctan(\sqrt{2}\sin\theta) -2\theta+C\]

and thus

\[\int\frac{2\cos^2\theta}{1+\sin^2\theta}\,d\theta = 2\sqrt{2}\arctan(\sqrt{2}\tan\theta) - 2\theta + C\]

and furthermore we now have that

\[\int \frac{\ln(1+\sin^2\theta)}{\sin^2\theta}\,d\theta = -\cot\theta\ln(1+\sin^2\theta) + 2\sqrt{2}\arctan(\sqrt{2}\tan\theta) -2\theta+C\]

We must take note of something due to the oscillatory nature of $\dfrac{\ln(1+\sin^2\theta)}{\sin^2\theta}$ seen below over the interval $[0,2\pi]$:

integralproblem_mhb.png


If we were to evaluate the integral over $[0,2\pi]$, lots of things would be ignored and we end up with an answer of $-4\pi$ (which makes no sense). From the graph, it makes sense to evaluate the integral from $[0,\pi/2]$ and then multiply that result by 4 to get the entire area. With that said, it follows now that

\[\begin{aligned} \int_0^{2\pi} \frac{\ln(1+\sin^2\theta)}{\sin^2\theta}\,d\theta &= 4\int_0^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \frac{\ln(1+\sin^2\theta)}{\sin^2\theta}\,d\theta \\ &= 4\left[-\cot\theta\ln(1+\sin^2\theta) + 2\sqrt{2}\arctan(\sqrt{2}\tan\theta) -2\theta\right]_0^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \\ &= 4\left[ \left( -\cot\frac{\pi}{2} \ln\left(1+\sin^2\frac{\pi}{2}\right) + \lim_{b\to\frac{\pi}{2}^-} 2\sqrt{2} \arctan\left(\sqrt{2}\tan b\right) -\pi\right)\right.\\ & \phantom{=.4.} \left.-\left( \lim_{a\to 0^+} -\cot a\ln(1+\sin^2 a) +2\sqrt{2} \arctan(\sqrt{2} \tan 0) \right)\right] \\ &= 4\left[(\sqrt{2}\pi -\pi) - \underbrace{\lim_{a\to 0^+} -\cot a\ln(1+\sin^2 a)}_{=0\text{ by L'Hôpital's rule}}\right]\\ &= 4\pi(\sqrt{2}-1)\approx 5.20516\end{aligned}\]

Which luckily matches up with the numerical value provided by WolframAlpha (!)

(Whew)

It's a lot to read through, but I hope this makes sense! XD

EDIT: Ninja'd by chisigma by about an hour or so... >_>
 
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Chris L T521 said:
I can't think of an easy way to do this one. I think converting to polar coordinates may ease the pain at the start, but from what you'll see below, it's still quite a messy process.

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Bacterius said:
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...and that's how I felt once I actually finished computing this integral.

(I pretty much laughed out loud when I saw that picture...at 02:15 when everyone around my place is practically sleeping...thanks for that. (Tongueout))
 
Another method: switch the order of integration. You get
$$ \int_{-1}^{1} \int_{- \sqrt{1-y^{2}}}^{ \sqrt{1-y^{2}}} \frac{2}{1+y^{2}} \, dx \, dy=2 \int_{-1}^{1} \int_{- \sqrt{1-x^{2}}}^{ \sqrt{1-x^{2}}} \frac{1}{1+y^{2}} \, dy \, dx=4 \int_{-1}^{1} \int_{0}^{ \sqrt{1-x^{2}}} \frac{1}{1+y^{2}} \, dy \, dx=$$
$$=4\int_{-1}^{1} \tan^{-1} \left( \sqrt{1-x^{2}}\right) dx= 8\int_{0}^{1} \tan^{-1} \left( \sqrt{1-x^{2}}\right) dx.$$
This last integral would succumb, I think, to by-parts (might need to do that twice). You can see that I've used symmetry twice.

[EDIT]: A single by-parts is useful, but the remainder of the steps are a bewildering array of substitutions. This will eventually get you to the same sorts of integrals Chris L T521 did.
 
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Speaking as a Physicist integrals like this are the reason that Mathematicians are included in research groups. (Bow)

-Dan
 
Wow. Chris L that was an impressively thorough solution. Kudos to you sir. I'd have to say Ackback wins the price for simplicity however. I'll try to solve it his way when I finish all this physics homework...
 
skatenerd said:
Wow. Chris L that was an impressively thorough solution. Kudos to you sir. I'd have to say Ackback wins the price for simplicity however. I'll try to solve it his way when I finish all this physics homework...

Maybe you didn't see my edit. My way leads to thickets of equations every bit as dense as Chris's, I'm afraid. I might possibly reach the thickets a tad quicker, but they're still there.
 
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I kind of like Wolfram's solution.
It's 5.20516.

Unless you want a beautiful mathematical solution. (Lipssealed)
 
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Ah Ackbach yeah I just saw your edit now. I have a feeling my professor didn't go through this homework himself...that integral is too mean and cruel
 
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skatenerd said:
Ah Ackbach yeah I just saw your edit now. I have a feeling my professor didn't go through this homework himself...that integral is too mean and cruel

Ah, yes: the (in)famous "exercise for the reader".
 
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Ackbach said:
Ah, yes: the (in)famous "exercise for the reader".

Or the one that is slightly "too large to fit into the margin". ;)
 

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