Is there any refined experimental result on flux quantum?

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The discussion revolves around the search for refined experimental results related to the magnetic flux quantum, particularly in the context of historical experiments and recent advancements. Participants explore various studies, the quantization of magnetic flux, and the implications of precision measurements in superconductivity.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the existence of more recent experiments that refine the results of earlier studies by Deaver, Fairbank, Doll, and Näbauer.
  • One participant suggests looking into papers on superconducting quantum interference devices (SQUIDs) for insights on flux quantization.
  • A reference to a 2011 article titled "50 Years of Fluxoid Quantization: 2e or Not 2e" is provided, although it is noted that it does not present new experimental results.
  • Concerns are raised about the accuracy and distribution of Deaver's results, with observations that the data near the first step appears too large while the second and third steps seem too small.
  • Another participant mentions that the magnetic flux quantum has been measured with high accuracy and is linked to the realization of the Volt as a standard SI unit.
  • Specific references to foundational papers from 1961 by Doll and Näbauer, and Deaver and Fairbank are provided, along with a suggestion to explore a NIST paper on superconducting magnetic levitation.
  • A participant expresses skepticism about whether recent measurements directly assess the flux quantum or merely derive it from the Josephson constant.
  • New results are presented suggesting that the flux may consist of a quantized term greater than hc/(2e) and a varying term influenced by external conditions, which could explain discrepancies in earlier data.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a mix of agreement on the historical significance of earlier experiments while expressing disagreement and uncertainty regarding the interpretation and implications of recent measurements and results. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on the nature of the flux quantum.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on definitions of the flux quantum, the accuracy of historical data, and the unresolved nature of recent experimental interpretations.

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So far I have only found the initial papers of Deaver, Bascom; Fairbank, William and of Doll, R.; Näbauer, M.

Is there any later and refined similar experiment result?
 
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What do you mean by "experiments on flux quantum"?
Do you mean experiments showing that flux is quantized? If so, see any paper/book on SQUIDs
 
to: f95toli

Deaver's results show poor stepwise distribution. Doll's results look systematic, but it is the only such result so far I have found.

Deaver's data near the 1st step seem too big, while those around the 2nd and 3rd steps seem too small.
 
I have read the "2e or Not 2e " article. It does not contain any new results, just story on Doll and Deaver's experiments.
 
The magnetic flux quantum is a 2010 CODATA fundamental constant. As such it must have been measured with half-way reasonable accuracy (NIST states a relative standard uncertainty of 2.2e-8).

http://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/fundconst/Results
 
zhanhai said:
to: f95toli

Deaver's results show poor stepwise distribution. Doll's results look systematic, but it is the only such result so far I have found.

Deaver's data near the 1st step seem too big, while those around the 2nd and 3rd steps seem too small.

Could you please give some specific references. When I put those names into scholar I can only find references that are 40 years old. The flux quantum has -M Quack- has already pointed out been measured with very high accuracy in many more recent experiments. The inverse is the flux quantum (the Josephson constant) has been used to realize the de facto standard for the Volt for the past 20 years and is (after the second) the most precise realization of a SI unit we have (since it related the second to the volt).

Also, I still don't understand what you are looking for? Precision measurements?
 
First, thank f95toli and M Quack for providing the information.

The specific references are:

R. Doll and M. Nabauer, Phys. Rev. Lett. 7, 51 (1961); and
B. S. Deaver and W. M. Fairbank, Phys. Rev. Lett. 7, 43 (1961).

(In fact, in some articles they are cited in a "3 in 1" manner together with: N. Byers and C. N. Yang, Phys. Rev. Lett. 7, 46 (1961)).

Of the NIST listing relating to flux quantum, the paper "Absolute determination of the magnetic flux quantum using superconducting magnetic levitation" looks promising, but I do not have access to the full text now. I will try later. But I doubt if they directly measured flux quantum, as Doll and Nabauer did. Specifically, if they simply measured the the Josephson constant and toke inverse of the latter as their flux quantum, it could be meaningless to physics topics like "is the flux quantum a fraction/multiple of hc/e?"
 
I don't have full text access, but from the abstract it looks as if you might be right.

DOI:
10.1109/19.377913

"The current status of our superconducting magnetic levitation experiment for determining the magnetic flux quantum is described. The flux-up system has been improved significantly by using a Josephson voltage standard. Studies are also in progress to improve the mechanical measurement relevant to the floating body with the goal of reducing the uncertainty to less than 1 ppm"
 
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OK, I have just got some newest results of myself, according to which the flux is the combination of two terms:

1) a quantized term some what greater than hc/(2e), (in fact the value of the factor has been determined; it is typically greater than one) and
2) a varing term that depends on external field, the size of the coil, and the penetration depth.

Depending on the direction of the external field, the varing term may decrease the overall flux, so when the external field is big enough and within a certain range, the measured flux can be close to hc/(2e). But as the external field further increases, the measured flux (step) decreases. This could be the reason why Deaver's data showed bigger 1st step and decreasing later steps.
 

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