Evo
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My answer is that they could be charlatains. Why would you claim to be physics and refuse to be tested? Maybe because you're a fake? What could be the motivation to be tested? A million dollars seems like quite a motivation if you are the real deal.zoobyshoe said:I understand and accept burden of proof. It's what my initial casual support of Mammo's point was about. Zelos made this claim:
"No one tries because they know they will fail". This is a claim. The burden of proof of that claim, by your own standards, is on zelos, or you, if you support his claim, to prove that all who won't take the test won't take it for the reason that they know they will fail. Would you care to step in for zelos and prove to me that this is the only possible motivation for not taking the test? I think you should because you objected to Mammo's suggestion there might be other reasons for not taking the test, calling that suggestion speculative. If that suggestion is speculative then you must have some proof that the only reason people won't take the test is because they know they will fail. The issue is motivation. There has been a claim made about motivation.
I don't think that claim should be unchallenged because, from my extensive (relative to you) reading on the subject of mysticism, I am aware that there are people who claim psychic powers ("claim" in the informal manner described to you earlier), but who would not take such a test despite complete confidence (warranted or not) they would pass it.
And I came in because of the speculative nature of the explanation for why no one will take the test.
How someone can be described as shy and still make a claim for psychic powers has been the subject all along? That was only the subject of one exchange: you asserted they couldn't be that shy if they made such claims, I explained, but instead of addressing my explanation of how someone can be described as shy and still make claims for psychic powers you went off on a tangential discourse about how people's belief in such things is always speculative.
Not saying that your scenario isn't possible, but if you thought you were really psychic, wouldn't the chance to make a million dollars at least tempt you to prove that you are for real?