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The discussion revolves around the relationship between angles in trigonometry, specifically exploring the equation \(\theta=360^\circ-\beta\) when \(\sin(\beta)=\frac{1}{3}\). Participants engage in applying trigonometric identities and solving related equations, with a focus on understanding the implications of these relationships in different quadrants.
Participants express various viewpoints on the solutions and their derivations, with no consensus reached on the exact values of \(\beta\) or the interpretation of the angles involved. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific reference angle and its implications.
Some participants express uncertainty about the derivation of solutions and the application of trigonometric identities, indicating potential gaps in understanding or assumptions that have not been fully articulated.
This discussion may be useful for students and enthusiasts of trigonometry seeking to understand the relationships between angles and sine values, as well as those interested in exploring problem-solving techniques in mathematical reasoning.
jevanuD said:I am aware that [M]\tan\left({}\right)[/M] = \sin\left({}\right)/\cos\left({}\right) and the other fundamental which is [M]\:1-\cos ^2\left(x\right)=\sin ^2\left(x\right)[/M] i just need some clarity on how its proven.
MarkFL said:Use the $\sum$ button to wrap your code, instead of the M button. ;)
The two identities you cited:
$$\tan(\theta)=\frac{\sin(\theta)}{\cos(\theta)}$$
$$1-\cos^2(\theta)=\sin^2(\theta)$$
will be very useful for the first problem...can you use them to make some substitutions?
jevanuD said:Yes correct, I've made my substitutions to prove that question A is indeed true, however i am not sure how to start "B"
MarkFL said:For the first part of part (b), multiply through by $\sin(\theta)$ to get a quadratic in $\sin(\theta)$. Then factor...what do you get?
jevanuD said:$$3\sin\left({\theta}\right){}^{2}=3$$?
MarkFL said:No, let's start with:
$$3\sin(\theta)=2+\frac{1}{\sin(\theta)}$$
Multiply through by $\sin(\theta)$ to get:
$$3\sin^2(\theta)=2\sin(\theta)+1$$
Arrange in standard form:
$$3\sin^2(\theta)-2\sin(\theta)-1=0$$
Now factor...what do you get?
jevanuD said:$$\sin\left({\theta}\right)\left(3\sin\left({\theta}\right)-3\right)=0$$
MarkFL said:No...what if I ask you to factor:
$$3x^2-2x-1=0$$
jevanuD said:$$\left(3x+1\right)\left(x-1\right)$$
MarkFL said:Excellent...the same applies whether you have the quadratic in $x$ or $\sin(\theta)$ or any other expression. So, this gives you:
$$\left(3\sin(\theta)+1\right)\left(\sin(\theta)-1\right)=0$$
From this, of course, we get:
$$\sin(\theta)=-\frac{1}{3}$$
$$\sin(\theta)=1$$
Can you see how many solutions you are going to have, and in which quadrants?
jevanuD said:Are you saying I should plot my 2 solutions into: $${0}^{0}\le\theta\le360^{0}$$
MarkFL said:What I would do is plot the unit circle, and the lines $y=1$ and $$y=-\frac{1}{3}$$...
From this graph, can you see how many solutions we're going to have on the required interval?
jevanuD said:from that I'm seeing 3 points marked, which is 3 solutions?
MarkFL said:Yes, and we should know immediately that:
$$\theta=90^{\circ}$$
is a solution corresponding to the intersection with the circle and the line $y=1$. Now, for the other two solutions, in quadrants III and IV, there are several ways you could approach finding them, and what I would do is observe they are symmetric about $270^{\circ}$...and so I would write:
$$\theta=\left(\frac{3\pi}{2}\pm\arccos\left(\frac{1}{3}\right)\right)\frac{180^{\circ}}{\pi}$$
Does that make sense?
jevanuD said:wow I am lost there, but i would then solve this equation?
MarkFL said:Another approach we could use is to observe that the two solutions will be of the form:
$$\theta=360^{\circ}-\beta$$
$$\theta=180^{\circ}+\beta$$
Do you see what the reference angle $\beta$ must be?
jevanuD said:We've only stated 2 angles 90 and 270, is it either of those?