Is this a valid way to calculate capillary force / pressure?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the validity of a proposed equation for calculating capillary force and pressure in liquids within tubes of various cross-sections. Participants explore the relationship between surface tension, contact angle, and geometry, considering both theoretical and practical implications.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents an equation for capillary force, fc = γ cosθ dS/dx, and discusses its application to different geometries, including cylindrical and rectangular tubes.
  • Another participant requests clarification on the terms used in the equation, specifically S and x.
  • It is noted that the equations derived are based on force balances assuming specific geometrical shapes and curvatures.
  • A participant demonstrates the application of the equation to cylindrical and rectangular tubes, confirming the results align with known solutions for these shapes.
  • There is a suggestion that the approach may be generally applicable for any constant perimeter or cross-sectional area geometry, with the caveat that the curvature must remain approximately constant.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the applicability of the approach to larger openings, such as in a beaker, where curvature may not be constant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the general applicability of the proposed equation, with some supporting its use under certain conditions while others highlight limitations based on geometry and curvature.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the assumption of constant curvature and the potential inapplicability of the approach to larger geometries where the pressure difference may not be uniform.

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When figuring out the capillary pressure on a liquid in a tube of a certain cross-section, the typical approach is to consider the Young-Laplace pressure and the curvature etc.

I was looking through some of my old notes and I had an equation for the capillary force:

fc = γ cosθ dS/dx

where γ is the surface tension,
θ is the contact angle,
S is the surface area to be covered by the liquid (not the cross-sectional surface area, A)
x is the direction of motion of the liquid.

With this equation, I can correctly deduce the capillary pressure in a cylinder (2γ cosθ / r),
and between parallel plates (2γ cosθ / h).

Can this equation be applied to an arbitrary (constant) cross-section?

Usually I see this kind of question tackled with the Young-Laplace equation, but that seems to be complicated for arbitrary cross-sections.
 
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Can you please show in a diagram what S and x are?
 
capillary_force_diagram.png


Does this help?
 
Yes, that's right
 
These equations are basically the result of a force balance on the meniscus, in the tube case, assuming a spherical segment for the surface, and for the flat channel, assuming a cylindrical segment for the surface (in each case so that the curvature of the surface is constant). The equations do not give the force, but rather the pressure difference across the meniscus surface.
 
Hmm, maybe I should demonstrate what I mean for clarification:

Cylindrical tube: fc = γ cos θ dS/dx,
Surface area in cylinder, S = 2πrx
Cross-sectional area, A = πr2
So Pc = fc/A = 2πrγ cosθ / πr2
Pc = 2γ cosθ / r

Yeah! Correct answer

Rectangular tube, w*h*x (x is direction of fluid motion):
Surface area in rectangular tube, S = 2wx + 2hx
Cross-sectional area, A = wh
Pc = fc/A = 2*(w + h)γ cosθ / wh = 2γ cosθ (1/h + 1/w)

Which recovers the parallel plate solution when w>>h.

Can this approach be used generally for any constant perimeter / cross-sectional area geometry?
 
thepopasmurf said:
Hmm, maybe I should demonstrate what I mean for clarification:

Cylindrical tube: fc = γ cos θ dS/dx,
Surface area in cylinder, S = 2πrx
Cross-sectional area, A = πr2
So Pc = fc/A = 2πrγ cosθ / πr2
Pc = 2γ cosθ / r

Yeah! Correct answer

Rectangular tube, w*h*x (x is direction of fluid motion):
Surface area in rectangular tube, S = 2wx + 2hx
Cross-sectional area, A = wh
Pc = fc/A = 2*(w + h)γ cosθ / wh = 2γ cosθ (1/h + 1/w)

Which recovers the parallel plate solution when w>>h.

Can this approach be used generally for any constant perimeter / cross-sectional area geometry?
In my judgment, yes, for constant cross section normal to vertical. It is just the integral of the Young-Laplace equation over the surface. However, I do think another constraint has to be that the opening is sufficiently small so that the curvature is approximately constant over the surface. For example, I don't think it is correct for a liquid in a beaker, where the middle area is flat, and the pressure difference across the interface in this area is zero. It would however give the pressure difference averaged over the area.
 
Thank you for your responses and help,
 

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