Is This Equation Correct? p² = p₀² + 2mΔk

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The discussion revolves around the equation p² = p₀² + 2mΔk, which relates momentum and kinetic energy. Participants explore its derivation, validity, and potential applications, touching on theoretical and conceptual aspects.

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  • Another participant references a relationship between momentum and kinetic energy, proposing an alternative expression involving changes in kinetic energy.
  • A different participant simplifies the expression for Δk, indicating a straightforward approach to relate kinetic energy and momentum.
  • One participant confirms the dimensional validity of the equation while questioning its practical application.
  • Another participant notes that the equation holds true for speeds much smaller than the speed of light.
  • A participant discusses the utility of the equation in solving for mass more simply compared to a system of equations involving momentum and kinetic energy.

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p^2=p_0^2+2m \Delta k

I derived it using the following:

k=\frac{1}{2}mv^2

p=mv

\frac{dk}{dv}=mv=p

\frac{dp}{dv}=m

\frac{dk}{p}=dv

\frac{dp}{m}=dv

\frac{dk}{p}=\frac{dp}{m}

mdk=pdp

\int_{k_0}^{k}mdk=\int_{p_0}^{p}pdp

m\Delta k=\frac{1}{2}(p^2-p_0^2)

p^2=p_0^2+2m \Delta k

As far as I can tell it's correct, but I though I'd get a second opinion.
 
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Since p2 = 2mk, where k = ½mv2

mk = ½p2

m (k2 - k1) = ½(p22 - p12)

Bob S
 
Isn't it easier to just note this?

\Delta k = k - k_0 = \frac{p^2}{2m} - \frac{p_0^2}{2m}

Edit: Ninja'd.
 
As well as what Bob S mentioned, I would say your equation is dimensionally valid.
By the way, why you need such an equation? Or what is it mainly used for?
 
It's correct for speeds much smaller than that of light.
 
Thanks for the responses :).

kiwakwok said:
By the way, why you need such an equation? Or what is it mainly used for?

As far as uses, it's a great deal simpler to solve for the mass than if you were to use a 3-equation system with p=mv, p0=mv0, and Δk=(m/2)(v2-v02) if you were only given p, p0 and Δk.
 

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