Is this nonsense? Notation type of quesiton

  • Thread starter Thread starter Jbreezy
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Notation Type
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the notation and expression of uniqueness in the context of identity elements in algebraic structures. Participants are exploring how to articulate the concept of a unique identity element using formal mathematical language.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to express the uniqueness of an identity element using various notations, questioning the clarity and correctness of their expressions. Some suggest using specific symbols for uniqueness, while others discuss the implications of stating "I = I" and its relevance to uniqueness.

Discussion Status

There is an active exploration of different ways to express the uniqueness of the identity element. Some participants are providing alternative notations and questioning the assumptions behind the expressions used. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts to clarify the mathematical concepts involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the constraints of formal notation and the need for clarity in mathematical communication. The original poster references a specific statement about the existence of a unique identity element, which is central to the discussion.

Jbreezy
Messages
582
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



Hi All,
I was trying to write that ## I ## is unique. ##I ## is my identity element.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



Maybe I can write

## \exists I | I = I ##
##\forall I \in G ##
Except with spaces. Is this not a way?


Just trying to specify that this thing is unique.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Could you say that and then just start with this assumption I = I and proceed with a proof from there?Thanks
 
What does I=I mean? It is always true. You want to say something like there exist a unique identity or if I and I' are any two identities then I=I'.
 
The question tells "Given there exits a unique identity element." So I'm just trying to use this. But having a hard time saying what I want. What I was trying to say before this was ##\exists ! I ## such that I = I.
But I guess...not sure how I'm trying to say this.
 
I would say something like
$$\exists ! I \in G |(xI=Ix=x) \forall x \in G$$
or
$$(xy=yx=x) \forall x \in G \implies y=I$$
 
"I= I" is always true whether I is denoting something that is "unique" or not. For example [itex]\frac{1}{2}= \frac{1}{2}[/itex] even though [itex]\frac{1}{2}= \frac{2}{4}[/itex] as well.
 

Similar threads

Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K