Is this the correct answer for a partial differentiation question?

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The discussion revolves around finding the general solution to a first-order linear ordinary differential equation given by y' + (2/x)y = 3/(x^2). Participants are exploring the steps involved in solving this equation and clarifying the nature of the solution.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the initial steps taken to solve the equation, including the use of integrating factors and the product rule. There are questions regarding the correctness of differentiation and integration methods applied. Some participants suggest alternative approaches to reach the general solution.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's attempts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct application of differentiation and integration techniques, but there is no explicit consensus on the final solution or method.

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One participant expresses confusion over terminology, mistakenly referring to the problem as a partial differential equation. There is an acknowledgment of the challenges faced in understanding the material, particularly in the context of preparing to teach mathematics.

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Homework Statement



Find the general solution of

y' + (2/x)y = 3/(x^2)



The Attempt at a Solution




xy' + 2y = 3/x
d/dx (x * 2y) = 3/x
integrating both sides (using product rule for LHS) I end up with

y= (3lnx + C)/2x

Then I am supposed to find the solution for which y(2) = -1 so I subbed that into the above and got c = -4/3 - ln2

So then I can say that y = 3lnx/(2x) - 4/3 -ln2

Hope that's right!
Thanks guys!
 
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your first step was right
u shud have repeated that
(x^2)y' + 2xy = 3
d/dx ((x ^ 2)*y) = 3
integrating both sides

y(x^2)+c=3x
this is the general solution now u can find c by given values of x and y and not supposing.
 
laura_a said:

Homework Statement



Find the general solution of

y' + (2/x)y = 3/(x^2)
In what sense is this a partial differential equation?



The Attempt at a Solution




xy' + 2y = 3/x
d/dx (x * 2y) = 3/x
These are NOT the same. differentiating (x*2y) gives 2xy'+ 2y. there is no "2" multipying xy' in the equation.

integrating both sides (using product rule for LHS) I end up with
There is no "product rule" for integration. You are simply using the "fundamental theorem of calculus, that the integral of f ' is f.

y= (3lnx + C)/2x
If y= (3lnx+ C)/2x, then y'= [2x(3/x)- 2(3lnx+C)]/4x2
Then xy'+ 2y= [6- 6lnx+2C]/4x+ [6lnx+ 2C/4x= 3/2x, not 3/x.

Then I am supposed to find the solution for which y(2) = -1 so I subbed that into the above and got c = -4/3 - ln2

So then I can say that y = 3lnx/(2x) - 4/3 -ln2

Hope that's right!
Thanks guys!
As I pointed out d/dx[2xy] is NOT equal to xy'+ 2y. There is NO function of x and y whose derivative with respect to x is xy'+ 2y, it is not an exact derivative. However, multiplying the entire equation by the "integrating factor", x, wil make it exact.

Multiplying the equation xy'+ 2y= 3/x by x gives x2y'+ 2xy= 3. The left side is equal to d[x2y]/dx so the equation is the same as d(x2y)/dx= 3 and integrating both sides of that x2y= 3x+ C.
 
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THanks guys, I know I typed partial but it is not what I meant... I've read about 16 textbooks today I think and I've made myself more confused... I understand the part that I missed now and I didn't even think to differentiate and check if my answer was right, I was more surprised that I got an answer... I'm studying very hard mathematics in order to teach high school maths and I'm struggling... thanks heaps for all your info
 

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