Is this the desired bounded set of the wave equation?

In summary, the initial data have compact support and so the solution of the wave equation has also compact support.
  • #1
evinda
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Hello! (Wave)

I want to show for the initial value problem of the wave equation

$$u_{tt}=u_{xx}+f(x,t), x \in \mathbb{R}, 0<t<\infty$$

that if the data (i.e. the initial data and the non-homogeneous term $f$) have compact support, then, at each time, the solution has also compact support.

I have thought the following:

The initial data are these, right?

$$u(x,0)=\phi(x) \\ u_t(x,0)=\psi(x)$$

The functions $f, \phi, \psi$ have compact support and so they are zero outside a bounded set $[-L,L]$.

The solution of the initial value problem is

$$u(x,t)=\frac{1}{2}[\phi(x+t)+\phi(x-t)]+\frac{1}{2} \int_{x-t}^{x+t} \psi(y) dy+\frac{1}{2} \int_0^t \int_{x-(t-s)}^{x+(t-s)} f(y,s) dy ds.$$

Let $t=T$ arbitrary.

Then

$$u(x,T)=\frac{1}{2}[\phi(x+T)+\phi(x-T)]+\frac{1}{2} \int_{x-T}^{x+T} \psi(y) dy+\frac{1}{2} \int_0^T \int_{x-(T-s)}^{x+(T-s)} f(y,s) dy ds.$$

We check when $u(x,T)=0$.

We have $u(x,T)=0$ if

  1. $x+T, x-T \in \mathbb{R} \setminus{[-L,L]} \Rightarrow ((x+T<-L \text{ or } x+T>L)) \text{ and } (x-T<-L \text{ or } x-T>L)$
  2. $(x-T<-L \text{ and } x+T<-L) \text{ or } (x-T>L \text{ and } x+T>L)$
  3. $(x-T+s<-L \text{ and } x+T-s<-L) \text{ or } (x-T+s>L \text{ and } x+T-s>L) \text{ for } 0 \leq s \leq T$.
From $2$ we get that $x<-L-T$ or $x>L+T$.

From $3$ we get that $x<-L+s-T$ or $x>L+T-s$ and thus $x<-L$ or $x>L$.Thus the bounded set outside of which $u$ is zero is $[-L-T,L]$, right?

Or have I done something wrong? (Thinking)
 
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  • #2
evinda said:
From $3$ we get that $x<-L+s-T$ or $x>L+T-s$ and thus $x<-L$ or $x>L$.

Hey evinda!

Since $0 \le s \le T$, shouldn't that be $x<-L-T$ or $x>L+T$ ? (Wondering)

evinda said:
Thus the bounded set outside of which $u$ is zero is $[-L-T,L]$, right?

Shouldn't that be $[-L-T,L+T]$ ? (Wondering)
 
  • #3
I like Serena said:
Hey evinda!

Since $0 \le s \le T$, shouldn't that be $x<-L-T$ or $x>L+T$ ? (Wondering)
Shouldn't that be $[-L-T,L+T]$ ? (Wondering)

Oh yes, right... (Nod)

And from $1$ we get that $(x<-L-T \text{ or } x>L-T) \text{ and } (x<T-L \text{ or } x>L+T)$, right? (Thinking)

Do the fact that $u$ is zero when $x>L-T$ and $x<T-L$ change something? :confused:
 
  • #4
evinda said:
Oh yes, right...

And from $1$ we get that $(x<-L-T \text{ or } x>L-T) \text{ and } (x<T-L \text{ or } x>L+T)$, right?

Do the fact that $u$ is zero when $x>L-T$ and $x<T-L$ change something?

Yes.
What should it change? And where did you get that?
The point was that we would find that $u$ has compact support, wasn't it? (Wondering)
 
  • #5
I like Serena said:
Yes.
What should it change? And where did you get that? (Wondering)

We get that $u$ is zero outside the boundet set $[T-L,L-T]$, right?

If so, then this holds only if $T<L$. But isn't this a contradiction since $t=T$ was arbitrary? (Worried)
 
  • #6
evinda said:
Thus the bounded set outside of which $u$ is zero is $[-L-T,L+T]$, right?

evinda said:
We get that $u$ is zero outside the boundet set $[T-L,L-T]$, right?

If so, then this holds only if $T<L$. But isn't this a contradiction since $t=T$ was arbitrary?

Didn't we find that $u$ was zero outside $[-L-T,L+T]$?
That holds for any $L\ge 0$ and $T \ge 0$ doesn't it? (Wondering)
 
  • #7
I like Serena said:
Didn't we find that $u$ was zero outside $[-L-T,L+T]$?
That holds for any $L\ge 0$ and $T \ge 0$ doesn't it? (Wondering)

Ah, from $1$ we get that $u$ is zero outside $[T-L,L-T]$ but the latter is a subset of $[-L-T,L+T]$, right? (Thinking)
 
  • #8
evinda said:
Ah, from $1$ we get that $u$ is zero outside $[T-L,L-T]$ but the latter is a subset of $[-L-T,L+T]$, right?

(Nod)
 
  • #9
I like Serena said:
(Nod)

Great... Thank you very much! (Happy)
 

1. What is the wave equation and why is it important?

The wave equation is a mathematical formula that describes the behavior of waves, such as sound waves, light waves, and water waves. It is important because it helps us understand how waves propagate and interact with their surroundings, which has practical applications in fields such as acoustics, optics, and fluid dynamics.

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4. What are some common examples of bounded sets in the wave equation?

Examples of bounded sets in the wave equation include the set of frequencies in an electromagnetic wave, the set of wavelengths in a sound wave, and the set of depths in a water wave. In all these cases, the values are limited by physical constraints, such as the properties of the medium through which the wave is traveling.

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