Is Using Absolute Value for Infinity Common Practice in Limits?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the use of absolute value in the context of limits, specifically examining the expression \(\lim_{x \to 0}\frac{1}{x} = \left| \infty \right|\). Participants explore whether this notation is common practice or if it represents a misunderstanding of mathematical concepts.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant finds the notation bizarre and questions its commonality in mathematical practice.
  • Another participant describes the notation as bad, uncommon, and bizarre, stating they have never encountered it before.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that using projective reals could make the limit exist, indicating that the notation might refer to the infinite element of projective reals rather than the extended reals.
  • One participant challenges the use of absolute value, arguing that negative infinity should not be disregarded and that the slopes from either direction approach the same value.
  • Another participant interprets the absolute value as an indication that the solution encompasses both negative and positive infinity, expressing relief that others also find the notation strange.
  • A participant critiques the original expression as incorrect, arguing that limits do not exist in the way presented and suggesting a more accurate representation of the limits from both sides.
  • One participant proposes an alternative expression, \(\lim_{x\to 0}\left|\frac{1}{x}\right|=\infty\), which is acknowledged positively by another participant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the validity and commonality of the notation. There is no consensus on whether the use of absolute value in this context is acceptable or represents a misunderstanding.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the expression \(\lim_{x \to 0}\frac{1}{x}\) does not exist in the traditional sense, highlighting the need for careful consideration of definitions and contexts when discussing limits involving infinity.

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Hi,

I came across a book which looks at a problem like

\lim_{x \to 0}\frac{1}{x}

So you approach from 0-, and get -∞, approach from 0+, get ∞

Then it would write the answer as

\lim_{x \to 0}\frac{1}{x} = \left| \infty \right|

It looks bizarre to me. How do you parse this? Is this common practice or just bad notation?
 
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Bad, uncommon, bizarre notation. I have never seen it before.
 
If you use the projective reals instead of the extended reals, the limit exists. It's possible that that book uses that notation to indicate that it's using the infinite element of the former, rather than one of the two infinite elements of the latter. But I too have never seen that before.
 
you can get negative infinite. Why you taking the absolute value of it?

Although, the slope will eventually equal the same as you approach 0 from either direction
 
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Presumably the book is using the absolute value to indicate that the solution includes both -inf and +inf. That's how I read it, but I'm happy to know I'm not the only one who finds it bizarre.
 
What book is it?
 
\lim_{x \to 0}\frac{1}{x} = \left|\infty\right|
This expression is blatantly incorrect and shows that the author has a basic misunderstanding of mathematics.

What he probably means, if you could write it like that, is:
\left| \lim_{x \to 0}{\frac{1}{x}}\right|=\infty

But you can't. An expression has one definite value, and \lim_{x \to 0}{\frac{1}{x}} doesn't exist. One has to write:
\lim_{x \to 0^+}{\frac{1}{x}}=\infty
\lim_{x \to 0^-}{\frac{1}{x}}=-\infty
 
Or
\lim_{x\to 0}\left|\frac{1}{x}\right|=\infty
:)
 
that works
 

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