Is zeta(-1) equal to -1/12? A Discussion on the Infamous Sum of Natural Numbers

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The discussion centers on the Riemann zeta function, specifically zeta(-1), which is defined as the infinite series 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + ... for x = -1. Participants assert that zeta(-1) equals -1/12, a result that arises from analytic continuation rather than traditional summation methods. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the implications of extending the zeta function to values less than 1, as it leads to non-standard results that diverge from conventional arithmetic.

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Hi,
I have read that zeta(x) = 1^(-x) + 2^(-x) + 3^(-x) + ... infinity
for x = -1, zeta(-1) = 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 ...
What confused me is that zeta(-1) = -1/12 and so 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + ... = -1/12
Can anybody give a proof that zeta(-1) is -1/12.

Thanks in advance.
 
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We have a fairly substantial thread on this topic already

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=732197

The main gist is that \zeta(x) is a function such that if x>1,
\zeta(x) = 1^{-x} + 2^{-x} +...
You can extend this function to allow for values of x smaller than 1, but when you do you aren't really calculating the sum of natural numbers anymore. In particular trying to do manipulations as if you really are calculating that sum can be dangerous. See the thread for more details and feel free to continue the discussion there.
 
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