Isothermal, isobaric and adiabatic

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The discussion revolves around the thermodynamic processes of isothermal, isobaric, and adiabatic expansions of gases. Participants explore the relationships between pressure, volume, and temperature during these processes, referencing the first law of thermodynamics and the behavior of gases under different conditions.

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  • Participants describe the characteristics of each thermodynamic process, including how volume and pressure change. There are attempts to relate the work done in each process to the area under the curves in a PV diagram. Some participants question the implications of the first law of thermodynamics in the context of these processes.

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Homework Statement
Ideal gas expands from volume V1 to volume V2 in three different
regimes: isothermal, isobaric and adiabatic, Fig.Q1.

(i) Identify the regimes (isothermal, isobaric, adiabatic) with the
curves (1-2, 1-3, 1-4).

(ii) In which of three expansion regimes the gas will perform the
larger work?

(iii) In which of three expansion regimes the larger heat will be
transferred to the gas?
Relevant Equations
ideal gas
first law of thermodynamics
(i) In this case the gas is expanding therefore its volume will increase and the pressure will drop. As volume gets bigger particles have more space to move around.

Isobaric is curve (1-2). It’s a horizontal line because here the pressure is constant.

Isothermal is curve (1-3) temp is constant here, energy added to the system through work, the is no change in internal energy. Fromperfect gas equation
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, m, R and temperature are constant therefore PV = constant,
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and that’s similar to rectangular hyperbola
Adiabatic curve is (1-4) there is no heat transfer into or out of the system.

The internal energy of gas will decrease. As the gas expands it will cool down and lose its kinetic energy therefore temperature will decrease. The internal energy equal the work done on the gas as there is no heat supply to the gas. The gas is doing work on the environment to expand. Here the gas will end up on a lower pressure. That’s why the curve is steeper.

(ii) The area under the curve gives the work done in a system. If expansion is occurring, isothermal will perform the larger work.
In isobaric from the first law of thermodynamics
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In isothermal process the internal energy U = 0
From the first law of thermodynamics
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as
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, heat flow intothe gas (Q) and work done on the gas (W) add up to zero.
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. The work here is done more on the surrounding. Because the temperature is constant the internal energy didn’t change energy had to be added to the system to make up the work done. The heat get transferred from the surroundings to do the worktherefore isothermal process does more work than the adiabatic. The heat transferred to the gas keeps its temperature constant higher pressure and more work done
whereas for adiabatic heat flow (Q) = 0, From the first law of thermodynamics
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as
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, internal energy
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there it means that the system's used its internal energy to perform its work

(iii) Adiabatic curve (1-4) there is no heat transfer into or out of the system, therefore its excluded.Isobaric curve (1-2) heat is transferred to the system to keep the pressure constant where Isothermal curve (1-3) temperature is constant and the internal energy is equal to zerobecause the temperature is constant the internal energy didn’t change energy had to be added to the system to make up the work done. Therefore, Isobaric has the largest heat transfer.
 

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Sabra_a said:
I attached a PDF file!
I can't paste the graph here
You shouldn't force homework helpers to open files.

Your answers appear correct.
 
thank you but I wasn't forcing, I thought the answer will be more clear while looking into a graph. I don't think this should be considered as a no effort
 
Sabra_a said:
I thought the answer will be more clear while looking into a graph.
Indeed it would be, but the graph should appear within your post and not in an attachment (see below).
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If I can post your figure, you can post your figure. If you cannot figure out how to do it, just ask.
 
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