I've tried to read the reason for using Fourier transform

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the use of Fourier transforms in the context of wave packets and their evolution according to the Schrödinger equation. Participants explore the relationship between position space and momentum space, and how Fourier transforms facilitate finding solutions to quantum mechanical problems.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the rationale behind using Fourier transforms in wave packets, expressing confusion about its application.
  • One participant suggests examining the relationship between position space and momentum space as a potential avenue for understanding.
  • A participant describes a specific example of a wave packet and proposes that the Fourier transform allows for expressing the wave function at a later time as an integral involving the initial wave function.
  • Another participant questions why the solution to the Schrödinger equation is not considered a general solution, indicating a need for clarity on the role of the Fourier transform in deriving solutions.
  • Further elaboration is provided on how the Fourier transform can be used to derive the unique solution to the Schrödinger equation given an initial condition.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the use of Fourier transforms in solving the Schrödinger equation, with some seeking clarification and others providing explanations. There is no consensus on the best approach or understanding of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the mathematical formulation of the Schrödinger equation and the specific conditions under which the Fourier transform is applied, but there are unresolved questions about the generality and implications of these solutions.

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I've tried to read the reason for using Fourier transform in wave packets, I don't understand why. Please help me with this.
 
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LSMOG said:
I've tried to read the reason for using Fourier transform in wave packets, I don't understand why. Please help me with this.

Is this specifically a physics question, or a question about Fourier transforms?

The issue is this: Suppose we have a particle that is initially distributed in a packet described by (in one-dimension)

[itex]\psi_0(x) = F(x)[/itex]

where [itex]F(x)[/itex] is some function that is strongly peaked at [itex]x=x_0[/itex]. For example, it might be Gaussian:

[itex]F(x) = \sqrt{\frac{1}{2 \pi \lambda}} e^{- \lambda (x-x_0)^2}[/itex]

Now, you would like to know what [itex]\psi(x,t)[/itex] will look like at some time [itex]t > 0[/itex]. You can try to solve the Schrödinger equation for that particular initial condition, but here's an easier way:

You know that a solution to Schrödinger's equation is [itex]\psi(x,t) = e^{i (kx - \omega_k t)}[/itex], corresponding to the initial wave function [itex]\psi_0(x) = e^{i k x}[/itex], where for the nonrelativistic Schrödinger equation, [itex]\omega_k = \frac{\hbar k^2}{2m}[/itex] for a particle of mass [itex]m[/itex]. So we can use that knowledge to solve the general problem:

Write [itex]\psi_0(x) = \int dk \tilde{F}(k) e^{i kx}[/itex], where [itex]\tilde{F}(k)[/itex] is the Fourier transform of [itex]F(x)[/itex]. Then, at a later time [itex]t[/itex], the wave function will be [itex]\psi(x,t) = \int dk \tilde{F}(k) e^{i (kx - \omega_k t)}[/itex]. Voila! The Fourier transform allows you to write down the general solution.
 
Thanks, why don'y we consider the solution to the Schrödinger equation as a general solution
 
LSMOG said:
Thanks, why don'y we consider the solution to the Schrödinger equation as a general solution

The issue is how to come up with a solution to the Schrödinger equation. The Fourier transform gives you a way to do that.
 
stevendaryl said:
The issue is how to come up with a solution to the Schrödinger equation. The Fourier transform gives you a way to do that.

If you are trying to solve the equation

[itex]-\frac{\hbar^2}{2m} \frac{\partial^2}{\partial x^2} \psi(x,t) = i \hbar \frac{\partial}{\partial t} \psi(x,t)[/itex]

subject to the initial condition

[itex]\psi(x,0) = F(x)[/itex]

then the unique solution is

[itex]\psi(x,t) = \int dk e^{i (kx - \omega_k t)} \tilde{F}(k)[/itex]

where [itex]\tilde{F}(k) = \frac{1}{2\pi} \int dx F(x) e^{-ikx}[/itex], and where [itex]\omega_k = \frac{\hbar k^2}{2m}[/itex].

This solution can also be written in the form:

[itex]\psi(x,t) = e^{-i \frac{H t}{\hbar}} F(x)[/itex]

where [itex]H = \frac{- \hbar^2}{2m} \frac{\partial^2}{\partial x^2}[/itex]
 

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