JasonWhat is the Taylor series for ln(x+2) about x = 0?

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The discussion revolves around finding the Taylor series expansion of the function ln(x + 2) about x = 0 using power series methods. Participants explore various approaches to derive the series and clarify the correct application of logarithmic properties in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss different forms of the logarithmic function and their implications for series expansion. There are attempts to express ln(x + 2) in terms of known series and to clarify the correct expansion point. Questions arise regarding the validity of different approaches and the interpretation of the problem statement.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants suggest corrections to earlier claims, while others affirm the validity of specific series forms. There is a focus on ensuring the expansion is correctly centered around x = 0, with some questioning the terminology used in the problem statement.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of the domain of convergence for the series and express uncertainty about the terminology used in the problem, particularly regarding the reference to "a".

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Homework Statement



Using power series, expand ln(x + 2) about a = 0 (Taylor series)

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



Is this appropriate?

[tex]ln(x+2) = ln((x+1)+1)[/tex]

[tex]x' = x+1[/tex]

[tex]ln(x'+1) = \sum_{n=0}^{\inf} \frac{(-1)^n}{n+1}(x')^{n+1}[/tex]

or

[tex]ln(x+2) = ln(\frac{x}{2}+1)[/tex]

[tex]x' = \frac{1}{2}x[/tex]

[tex]ln(x'+1) = \sum_{n=0}^{\inf} \frac{(-1)^n}{n+1}(x')^{n+1}[/tex]
 
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Well, you rather have
[tex]\ln(2+x)=\ln[2(1+x/2)].[/tex]
You can, however still use your trick with this correction made!
 
So would your formula then be:

[tex]ln2 + ln(1+(x/2)) = ln2 + \sum_{n=0}^{\inf} \frac{(-1)^n}{n+1}(x/2)^{n+1}[/tex]

or

[tex]ln(2(x/2+1)) = 2*\sum_{n=0}^{\inf} \frac{(-1)^n}{n+1}(x/2)^{n+1}[/tex]
 
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This you should be able to answer yourself by giving the reasoning behind each of the two claims you made. Of course only one of them can be right!
 
I believe that the first one is right because

[tex]ln(AB) = lnA + lnB[/tex]

[tex]A = 2, B = (1+x/2)[/tex]
 
I think you want to do the expansion around x = -1, so that a = 0.

So, the first few terms are: [tex]ln(x+2) = 0 + (x-1)f'(-1)+...=(x-1)+...[/tex]
 
It was asked to do the expansion around [itex]0[/itex], and of course the first equation is correct, i.e.,
[tex]\ln(x+2)=\ln 2 + \ln(1+(x/2)) = \ln 2 + \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^n}{n+1}(x/2)^{n+1}.[/tex]
Finally you should think about the domain, where the series is convergent!
 
zzmanzz said:

Homework Statement



Using power series, expand ln(x + 2) about a = 0 (Taylor series)

Homework Equations




The Attempt at a Solution



Is this appropriate?

[tex]ln(x+2) = ln((x+1)+1)[/tex]

[tex]x' = x+1[/tex]

[tex]ln(x'+1) = \sum_{n=0}^{\inf} \frac{(-1)^n}{n+1}(x')^{n+1}[/tex]

or

[tex]ln(x+2) = ln(\frac{x}{2}+1)[/tex]

[tex]x' = \frac{1}{2}x[/tex]

[tex]ln(x'+1) = \sum_{n=0}^{\inf} \frac{(-1)^n}{n+1}(x')^{n+1}[/tex]

Why not just use the Maclaurin series formula
[tex]f(x) = f(0) + f'(0)\,x + f''(0)\, \frac{x^2}{2!} + \cdots \:\:?[/tex]
It is really very simple to use in this case.
 
Yes, that's what I had in mind. For the x terms in your expansion. Can I do:
[tex]f(x) = f(0) + f'(0)(\frac{x}{2}) + f''(0)\frac{1}{2!}(\frac{x}{2})^2 + ...[/tex]
 
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zzmanzz said:
Yes, that's what I had in mind. For the x terms in your expansion. Can I do:
[tex]f(x) = f(0) + f'(0)(\frac{x}{2}) + f''(0)\frac{1}{2!}(\frac{x}{2})^2 + ...[/tex]

Your could write that, but you would be WRONG. The Correct form of the expansion is exactly as I wrote it. Your series above is for f(x/2), not for f(x).
 
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ok I think I get it now.

I use your mclaurin series to expand the formula..

Then based on the series outcome, we build the sum. So the following sum is still correct:

[tex]ln2 + \sum_{n=0}^{\inf} \frac{(-1)^n}{n+1}(x/2)^{n+1}[/tex]
 
  • #12
vanhees71 said:
It was asked to do the expansion around [itex]0[/itex]

Is that what it means when it says "expand ln(x + 2) about a = 0?" I'm not familiar with this type of terminology. What the heck is "a"?

Chet
 
  • #13
Chestermiller said:
Is that what it means when it says "expand ln(x + 2) about a = 0?" I'm not familiar with this type of terminology. What the heck is "a"?

Chet

My guess would be that it was a typo, and should have said "...about x = 0".
 

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