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The discussion centers around the online Master's program in Applied Physics offered by Johns Hopkins University. Participants are exploring the program's structure, its affiliation with the School of Engineering, and the experiences of those who have completed or are pursuing the degree. The conversation also touches on the nature of online doctoral programs in general.

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  • One participant inquires about the difficulty and value of the online Master's program, noting its high cost.
  • Another participant finds it interesting that the program is offered through the School of Engineering, questioning if this is a common practice for Applied Physics graduate programs.
  • Some participants mention that Harvard has a similar organizational structure, with Applied Physics in the School of Engineering and Physics in the School of Arts and Sciences.
  • There is a discussion about another institution, Bircham International University, which offers remote PhDs, raising questions about how they conduct physics labs.
  • A participant clarifies that Bircham does not offer labs and discusses the distinctions between different types of doctorate degrees, including Ph.D. and D.S., as outlined on Bircham's website.
  • Another participant expresses surprise at the terminology used by Bircham regarding North American education systems and asks if others have encountered similar distinctions between Ph.D. and D.S. in North America or elsewhere.

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Participants express curiosity about the program's structure and the nature of online doctoral degrees, but there is no consensus on the commonality of such organizational structures across institutions or on the distinctions between doctorate degrees. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the experiences with the Johns Hopkins program and the broader implications of online education.

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Some participants reference specific institutional policies and distinctions that may not be universally recognized, indicating a potential limitation in shared understanding of doctoral degree classifications.

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berkeman said:
It's interesting that this Applied Physics program is offered through their School of Engineering. Is that common for Applied Physics graduate programs?
I don't know how common overall. But Harvard has a similar program organization: Physics is in the School of Arts and Sciences, while Applied Physics is in the School of Engineering and Applied Sciences.
 
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CrysPhys said:
I don't know how common overall. But Harvard has a similar program organization: Physics is in the School of Arts and Sciences, while Applied Physics is in the School of Engineering and Applied Sciences.
Same at Caltech.
 
WWGD said:
Just surprised that https://www.bircham.edu/degrees.html grants PhD's remotely too. Wonder how they do their Physics labs.
<<Emphasis added.>> They don't offer labs. According to their website (https://www.bircham.edu/degrees/online-doctorate-phd.html), they distinguish among various doctorate degrees:

"You may earn a Doctor Ph.D. Degree (Doctor of Philosophy) online via distance learning in any major of study. The North American education systems considers several doctorate degree options. The Ph.D. (Doctor of Philosophy) is earned after successful completion and defense of a theoretical research on any specialization. This research is presented in the form of a doctoral thesis. The D.S. (Doctor of Science) is the consequence of a research based primarily on a laboratory work or an empirical investigation. The conclusions are also published on a thesis. There are also professional doctorates such as M.D. (Medical Doctor) or J.D. (Juris Doctor) which are earned only after successful completion of several years of professional practice among other requirements. The Ph.D. (Doctor of Philosophy) is the only doctorate degree that may be earned via distance learning. It should be quite clear that any laboratory work or professional practice may not be conducted online or through any other distance education modality." <<Emphasis added.>>

ETA: I'm surprised that the above passage refers to the "North American education systems" when distinguishing between a Ph.D. and D.S. I'm in the US and never heard of this. I am aware of the MIT policy (https://oge.mit.edu/graduate-admissions/programs/doctoral-degrees/):

"Please note that the Doctor of Philosophy (PhD) and Doctor of Science (ScD) degrees are awarded interchangeably by all departments in the School of Engineering and the School of Science, except in the fields of biology, cognitive science, neuroscience, medical engineering, and medical physics. This means that, excepting the departments outlined above, the coursework and expectations to earn a Doctor of Philosophy and for a Doctor of Science degree from these schools are generally the same. Doctoral students may choose which degree they wish to complete."

Have others in North America (particularly in Canada or Mexico) heard of a distinction between a Ph.D. and D.S.? What about those outside of North America?
 
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