Jordan Normal Form: Find Basis B in $\mathbb{Z}_{5}^{3}$

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The problem involves finding a basis B of the vector space $\mathbb{Z}_{5}^{3}$ such that the representation of a linear operator f in that basis corresponds to a specific Jordan form matrix. The original poster has identified the characteristic polynomial and found two linearly independent eigenvectors associated with the eigenvalue $\lambda = 2$, but is struggling to find a third vector that satisfies the necessary conditions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to find a third basis vector, v2, that satisfies a specific equation involving the matrix A and the eigenvector v1. They express confusion about the lack of a solution to this equation.
  • Some participants suggest the need for a generalized eigenvector and discuss the implications of the characteristic equation, noting that the original poster may not have found all necessary independent vectors.
  • Others question the existence of solutions to the equations derived from the generalized eigenvector conditions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the requirements for finding a third basis vector and the nature of generalized eigenvectors. There is a recognition of the challenges faced by the original poster, and attempts to clarify the conditions under which solutions may exist.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the equations derived from the matrix A and the eigenvectors do not yield solutions over $\mathbb{Z}_{5}$, which raises questions about the assumptions made in the original poster's approach.

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Homework Statement


Let [itex]f:\:\mathbb{Z}_{5}^{3}\rightarrow \mathbb{Z}_{5}^{3}[/itex] be a linear operator and let [itex][f]_{e_{3}}^{e_{3}}=A=\begin{pmatrix}3 & 1 & 4\\<br /> 3 & 0 & 2\\<br /> 4 & 4 & 3<br /> \end{pmatrix}[/itex] over [itex]\mathbb{Z}_{5}[/itex].
Find a basis B of [itex]\mathbb{Z}_{5}^{3}[/itex] such that [itex][f]_{B}^{B}=\begin{pmatrix}2 & 1 & 0\\<br /> 0 & 2 & 0\\<br /> 0 & 0 & 2<br /> \end{pmatrix}[/itex].

The Attempt at a Solution


I found out that the characteristic polynomial of [itex]f[/itex] is [itex]-(\lambda-2)^{3}[/itex] and that there are two linearly indenpendent vectors corresponding to [itex]\lambda =2[/itex].
These vectors are [itex]v_{1}=\begin{pmatrix}1\\<br /> 0\\<br /> 1<br /> \end{pmatrix}[/itex] and [itex]v_{3}=\begin{pmatrix}4\\<br /> 1\\<br /> 0<br /> \end{pmatrix}[/itex].

Now, let [itex]B=\left(v_{1},\: v_{2},\: v_{3}\right)[/itex].
We have [itex]f(v_{1})=2\cdot v_{1}[/itex] and [itex]f(v_{3})=2\cdot v_{3}[/itex] as desired.
We want [itex]v_{2}[/itex] to satisfy the equation [itex]Av_{2}=f(v_{2})=v_{1}+2v_{2}[/itex], which we can rewrite as [itex](A-2I_{3})v_{2}=v_{1}[/itex].
However, this is the point I got stuck on.
This equation doesn't have a solution... Why?
I was hopping somebody could tell me what I was doing wrong because I've spent a few hours trying to figure out what's wrong...

Thank you!
 
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You need to find a third basis vector. What you need is a "generalized eigen vector". The characteristic equation for this matrix is [itex](\lambda- 2)^3= 0[/itex] and every matrix satisfies its own characteristic equation- that is, [itex](A- 2I)^3v= 0[/itex] for every vector v in the vector space. But you were not able to find three indepedent vectors such that (A- 2I)v= 0. That means there must exist a one dimensional space of vectors, v, for which (A- 2I)v is not equal to 0 but [itex](A- 2I)^2v= (A- 2I)[(A- 2I)v]= 0[/itex]. And that means that (A- 2I)v must be an eigenvector. A "generalized eigenvector" must satisfy either (A- 2I)v= <1, 0, 1> or (A- 2I)v= <4, 1, 0>. Try to solve those equations.
 
I tried to solve those equations before I asked here but neither of them has a solution over [itex]\mathbb Z_{5}[/itex]
That's the reason why I'm so puzzled.:-/
 
I've double-checked my attempt at solution but I didn't find any mistakes.
Now, I'm really desperate.:confused:

I was hopping somebody could tell me what I was doing wrong.:smile:
 

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