Just a theory question on odd and even functions

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The discussion revolves around the properties of even and odd functions, particularly in relation to their inverses. Participants explore what conclusions can be drawn about the inverses of such functions.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants examine the definitions of even and odd functions and their implications for inverses. Questions arise about whether even functions can have inverses and the conditions under which odd functions do. Some participants provide specific examples, such as f(x) = x² and f(x) = x³, to illustrate their points.

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The discussion is active, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants suggest that odd functions can have inverses, while others question the relationship between the properties of the original function and its inverse. There is a mix of agreement and disagreement on specific examples and definitions.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of function properties, including one-to-one criteria for inverses and the implications of symmetry in relation to odd and even functions. The conversation reflects a range of understanding and assumptions about these mathematical concepts.

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Homework Statement



If a function is even or odd, what can one conclude about its inverse?

The Attempt at a Solution



Let f(x) = f(-x)

f-1(x) = f-1(-x)

Let g(x) = -g(x)

g-1(x) = -g-1(x)
 
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flyingpig said:

Homework Statement



If a function is even or odd, what can one conclude about its inverse?




The Attempt at a Solution



Let f(x) = f(-x)

f-1(x) = f-1(-x)

Let g(x) = -g(x)

g-1(x) = -g-1(x)

Let f(x) = x2, which is an even function. What can you conclude about its inverse?
 
[tex]\sqrt{x} \neq \sqrt{-x}[/tex]...

I am guessing in general, you can't make any conclusion at all can you lol?
 
Are you saying that if f(x) = x2, f-1(x) = [itex]\sqrt{x}[/itex]?
 
Mark44 said:
Are you saying that if f(x) = x2, f-1(x) = [itex]\sqrt{x}[/itex]?

Plus or minus root x
 
Some questions you should be asking yourself are:
Can an even function have an inverse?
Can an odd function have an inverse?
What sorts of functions have inverses?
 
flyingpig said:
Plus or minus root x
Then that's not a function. A function produces a single value for a given input.
 
Well okay, odd functions can have an inverse, f(x) = x, f(y) = y

f(-x) = -f(x) = -x

f(-y) = -f(y) = -y

-y = -x

y = x
 
What about, say, y = x3?

Does it have an inverse? Is x3 its own inverse, like the very simple function you just picked?

If this function has an inverse, is the inverse even, odd, neither?
 
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It is neither...

So the conclusion is that there are no relationships between odd and even functions and its inverse.
 
  • #11
flyingpig said:
It is neither...

So the conclusion is that there are no relationships between odd and even functions and its inverse.
That's not the right conclusion. You can say this about even functions, because even functions aren't one-to-one, and don't have inverses. An odd function [STRIKE]does[/STRIKE] will have an inverse [STRIKE]because[/STRIKE] if it is one-to-one.

Limiting your focus to odd functions, can you say something about whether their inverses are even or odd?
 
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  • #12
No...y = x3. That example you showed me. y = x1/3 is neither an even nor odd function.
 
  • #13
Wrong. y = x1/3 is an odd function.
 
  • #14
Mark44 said:
An odd function does have an inverse, because it is one-to-one.

You mean like sin(x)?
 
  • #15
LCKurtz said:
You mean like sin(x)?
I recant what I said. I have edited my original statement.
 
  • #16
One second, I graphed y = x1/3 on Wolframalpha and it didn't look like it was "anti-symmetric" to me.

I graphed it on Maple and I can only see it on the first quadrant.
 
  • #17
Every real number has a cube root, which is the same as saying that the domain of the function y = x1/3 is all real numbers.
 
  • #18
F(x) = x1/3

F(-x) = -x1/3

F(-x) = -F(x)

So its inverse is also odd?

But doesn't F(-x) = -F(x) for x1/3 also suggest x1/3 is symmetric about the x-axis and therefore not a function?
 
  • #19
flyingpig said:
F(x) = x1/3

F(-x) = -x1/3

F(-x) = -F(x)

So its inverse is also odd?

But doesn't F(-x) = -F(x) for x1/3 also suggest x1/3 is symmetric about the x-axis and therefore not a function?

Not so. Rather, F(x)=F(-x) implies symmetry about the y-axis, and so if F(x)=F(-x), then F-1(x) is symmetric about the x-axis. But F(-x)=-F(x) only implies symmetry about the origin.
 
  • #20
Yes, that's true- [itex]y= x^{1/3}[/itex] as Mark44 said.

In fact for any odd function, if y= f(x) then f(-x)= -f(x)= -y. That is, if (x, y) is a pair in the function (functions can always be thought of as a set of ordered pairs), then (-x, -y) is also a pair. Now what happens if you reverse the order to (y, x) (getting the set of pairs corresponding to [itex]f^{-1}[/itex])?
 

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