Kinematic question involving differential equation

In summary: Use the same variables I used so I don't have to re-explain everything.Good luck.In summary, the problem involves finding the relationship between velocity (v) and time (t) for a particle of mass m falling from rest with air resistance. By using the equation ma = mg - kv^2 and the fact that V^2 = mg/k, the equation t = V/2g ln[(V + v)/(V - v)] is derived, showing the relationship between velocity and time. The problem requires using partial fractions to separate the terms in the denominator and then integrating to eventually solve for t.
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Homework Statement


A particle of mass m falls from rest; the resistance of the air when the speed is v is kv2 where k is a constant. Show that after a time t, the velocity v and the time t are related by the equation t = V/2g ln[(V + v )/(V - v)] where V2
= mg/k

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


ma = mg - kv2
a = g - k/m v2
dv/dt = g - k/m v2
dv = g - k/m v2dt
v = gt - k/m v2t
t = v/(g - k/m v2)

But I don't know how to continue from here.
I have been studying differential equation on my own, so I am not very strong in the foundation
 
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This is a seperable differential equation. But it is enough if you replace the given v(t) relation back into the original equation.

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  • #3
It is quite complicated to solve the differential equation, but if you find v(t) from the given "solution" (which you want to prove), given as t(v), you can put this v(t) into your equation and see the all the terms cancel out. This should leave you with something like 1=1.
Just to kinda clairify.
 
  • #4
I'll get you started

gaobo9109 said:

Homework Statement


A particle of mass m falls from rest; the resistance of the air when the speed is v is kv2 where k is a constant. Show that after a time t, the velocity v and the time t are related by the equation t = V/2g ln[(V + v )/(V - v)] where V2
= mg/k

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


ma = mg - kv2
a = g - k/m v2
dv/dt = g - k/m v2
dv = g - k/m v2dt
v = gt - k/m v2t
t = v/(g - k/m v2)

But I don't know how to continue from here.
I have been studying differential equation on my own, so I am not very strong in the foundation

Hi there,
OK, let me get you started on this, and I'll leave it in a place where you should be able to finish it from there. I have already gone through and done the proof, but I cannot simply give it to you as it will be removed shortly after if I do, so instead I'll get you a little over half way there, explaining what I'm doing along the way, and then I'll tell you what you need to do to finish the proof.

Let's start with what you had:

ma = mg - kv2
re-write a as dv/dt (dv/dt is the infinitesimally small change in velocity with respect to an infinitesimally small change in time, which is the acceleration at a given point in time)
m(dv/dt) = mg - kv2
mdv = (mg - kv2)dt

Now since we know that V2 = mg/k let's factor out k from the right hand side of the equation.

mdv = k(mg/k - v2)dt
mdv = k(V2 - v2)dt

dv/(V2 - v2) = (k/m)dt
The denominator on the left hand side is called the difference of two squares and can be re-written as:

dv/[(V +v)(V - v)] = (k/m)dt

Now in order to integrate the left hand side it will be far easier to do if you separate the terms in the denominator such that you only have an integration with respect to one over V+v with a constant in the numerator summed with another integral with only V-v in the denominator with again a constant in the numerator.

How you do this is called separation by partial fractions. Basically if you have something like

1/[(x + a)(x +b)] you set this equal to how you'd like it separated, for instance using my example, I would write this as:

1/[(x + a)(x + b)] = A/(x + a) + B/(x + b) where A is not a and B is not b, necessarily, as they could be equal, but they are not meant to be the same value. The right hand side of this equation is what you want your equation to look like as it is far easier to integrate than one with the product of two terms each having the variable of integration within those terms in the denominator. So to solve for A and B you multiply each side by the denominator on the left hand side to get:

1 = A(x + b) + B(x + a), now let x = -b
1 = A(-b + b) + B(-b + a)
1 = B(a - b)
B = 1/(a - b) and a and b are both constants, so that worked well. Now let's do the opposite so we can find A. We have to let x = -a and we get:

1 = A(-a + b) + B(-a + a)
1 = A(b - a)
A = -1/(a - b) a and b are still constants, so all is still well. Now let's set the original fraction equal to what we found.

1/[(x + a)(x + b)] = [(-1/(a - b))/(x + a)] + [(1/(a - b))/(x + b)]

Using partial fractions is what you need to do to the equation below (derived from above, and I don't mean from God, but further back in this reply) in order to separate the terms in the denominator on the left hand side so that you can integrate each side and solve for t.

When you get done you will have a k and an m term in there you need to get rid of, but you can because you know that V2 = mg/k, so you can plug that in and get rid of everything except V,g and the natural log of that fraction involving the velocity, v.

dv/[(V +v)(V - v)] = (k/m)dt

So this is where I leave you. Try using partial fractions to separate the left hand side into two different fractions with only one v term in each denominator, you can basically just do what I did with the partial fractions, integrate, re-arrange a little and get rid of the k and m that will still be there when you are done by using V2 = mg/k and solve for t and that should give you the same thing that you need to prove is true.

You also need to know some common (and by common I mean well known ones, not a base 10 log, although the same operations apply to both the common and natural log) log operations in order to combine stuff after integrating, like the ln(a) - ln(b) = ln(a/b).

Hopefully I have given you enough that you can take it from here and solve the proof on your own and also I hope I haven't given you too much of the procedure so that it is as easy as simply performing a couple of easy steps and you have the proof.

If what I did is something you haven't seen before, yet you understand what I have shown you, then you have learned something new, and that's always a good thing. Now just take it to its conclusion and solve for the proof.

Good luck and many smiles,
Craig :smile:
 
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Thanks for the detailed answer
 

1. What is a kinematic question involving differential equation?

A kinematic question involving differential equation is a type of physics problem that involves using differential equations to model the motion of an object. It typically involves finding the position, velocity, or acceleration of an object at a specific time, given information about its initial conditions and any external forces acting on it.

2. How do you solve a kinematic question involving differential equation?

To solve a kinematic question involving differential equation, you will need to use mathematical techniques such as integration, differentiation, and substitution. First, you must set up the appropriate differential equation based on the given information. Then, use calculus techniques to solve the equation and find the desired quantity (position, velocity, or acceleration).

3. What is the difference between kinematics and dynamics?

Kinematics is the branch of physics that studies the motion of objects without considering the forces that cause the motion. It focuses on describing the position, velocity, and acceleration of objects. On the other hand, dynamics is the branch of physics that studies the relationship between motion and the forces that cause it. It involves using Newton's laws of motion to analyze the forces acting on an object and how they affect its motion.

4. Can you give an example of a kinematic question involving differential equation?

Sure, an example of a kinematic question involving differential equation could be: "A car is traveling at a constant velocity of 20 m/s. At t=0, it passes a traffic light which turns red. The car's acceleration is -3 m/s^2. What is the car's position at t=5 seconds?" To solve this, we would use the kinematic equation x(t) = x0 + v0t + (1/2)at^2, where x0 is the initial position, v0 is the initial velocity, a is the acceleration, and t is time. Substituting the given values, we can solve for x(t) = 95 meters.

5. Why is it important to use differential equations in kinematic problems?

Differential equations are important in kinematic problems because they allow us to model the motion of an object with greater precision and accuracy. By taking into account the object's initial conditions and any external forces, we can use differential equations to solve for the object's position, velocity, and acceleration at any given time. This allows us to make predictions about the object's future motion and better understand the underlying principles of motion and forces.

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