Kinematics - getting different answers when using different units

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The problem involves a jetliner landing and decelerating, with a focus on calculating the minimum runway length required for the aircraft to come to a stop. The subject area is kinematics, specifically dealing with motion under constant acceleration and unit conversions.

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  • The original poster attempts to solve the problem using two different unit systems, leading to discrepancies in the results. They express confusion over their unit conversion process, particularly regarding the acceleration.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the unit conversion issues raised by the original poster. Some have pointed out errors in the conversion of acceleration from m/s² to km/hr², while others are verifying calculations and providing alternative conversions.

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There is an emphasis on ensuring correct unit conversions, as the original poster's attempts yielded significantly different results. The discussion highlights the importance of consistent units in kinematic equations.

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Homework Statement



A jetliner touches down at 270 km/h. The plane then decelerates (i.e., undergoes acceleration directed opposite its velocity) at 4.5 m/s2. What’s the minimum runway length on which this aircraft can land?

Homework Equations



v2fx = v2ix + 2axΔx

The Attempt at a Solution



i got the solution doing this:

(270km/hr)(1000m/km)(hr/3600s) = 75m/s

0 = (75m/s)2 + 2(-4.5m/s2x
(-9m/s)Δx = 5625m2/s2
Δx = 625m

which is the correct answer.

however, i also tried to get the answer by converting everything to km/h, and i couldn't get the correct answer. i can't figure out why, and it's driving me crazy. here's what i tried:

0 = (270km/hr)2 + 2(-4.5 m/s2x
9m/s2Δx = 72900km2/hr2

and then an aside for unit conversion:

(9m/s2)(km/1000m)(3600s2/hr2) = 32.4km/hr2

i plugged that into get

32.4km/hr2Δx = 72900km2/hr2
Δx = 2250 km, which is much, much more than the 625 m that i got above.

what am i doing wrong?!?

thanks for the help, i really appreciate it
 
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The conversion of the units in acceleration is way off.
 
voko said:
The conversion of the units in acceleration is way off.

how so?

this is probably a silly question but I've reworked this like four times and don't see what I'm doing wrong...
 
3600 times 3600 over 1000 must be obviously greater than 1000.
 
You are wrong at converting -4.5 m/s2 to 32.4 km/hr2
it is -58320 km/hr2

4.5 m/s2=[4.5(10-3)]/(3600*3600)-1
=(4.5*3600*3600)/1000
=58320
Hence,
0=2702+2(-58320)Δx
2702=116640*Δx
72900=116640*Δx
Δx=72900/116640
Δx=0.625km ( which is 625m)
 
thanks!
 

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