Kinematics[polar coordinate] concept problem

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The discussion revolves around a kinematics problem involving polar coordinates, specifically focusing on the components of velocity for a car in motion. Participants are exploring the relationship between angular velocity and the velocity components in a polar coordinate system.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster questions the relationship between angular velocity and the velocity component V(θ), expressing confusion over a potential contradiction in their understanding. Other participants discuss the horizontal and vertical components of velocity, introducing formulas and relationships that involve the changing distance of the car from a vertical shift.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering various interpretations of the velocity components and their relationships. There is a mix of attempts to clarify concepts and check assumptions, but no explicit consensus has been reached regarding the original poster's confusion.

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Some participants mention specific formulas and relationships, such as the dependence of vertical velocity on angular displacement, while others note that the distance to the vertical shift is variable. The discussion reflects the complexity of the problem and the need for further exploration of the underlying concepts.

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1)I need to find out V([tex]\theta[/tex]). But I remember that r[tex]\theta[/tex]<dot>
= [tex]\omega[/tex] = V([tex]\theta[/tex])

Something seems like contradict
Where my concept wrong?
How should I deal with this problem??
I guess that the h should be included ~but why?
 
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The car has two velocity components. The horizontal component Vr = r*omega. It is given that h = cos(2theta) + 1. Therefore vertical component of the velocity Vh = dh/dt = -2sin(2theta)*d(theta)/dt.
The resultant of Vr and Vh gives the velocity of the car.
 
[tex]v(\theta)=\omega R(\theta)[/tex]

Distance of car to vertical shift is always changing and equals [tex]R(\theta)[/tex]
 
This variation is along the radius and hence it does not affect the theta component of the velocity.
 
But theta is on x-y plane

[tex]\omega=\frac{d\theta}{dt}[/tex]
 
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Distance of car to vertical shift is always changing and equals Rcos(phy) This velocity does not contribute to V(theta)
 

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