Kinetic Energy and Momentum in Air Track Puck Collision

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving two pucks on a frictionless air track, focusing on concepts of kinetic energy, momentum, and the effects of mass and force on their motion. Participants are exploring the relationships between these physical quantities as the pucks are pushed by equal forces.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of mass on momentum and kinetic energy, questioning the reasoning behind the assumption that velocities would balance out despite differing masses. There is also exploration of how acceleration affects the final velocities of the pucks.

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Some participants have provided insights that clarify the relationships between kinetic energy and momentum, suggesting that the heavier puck may have greater momentum despite the lighter puck having higher kinetic energy. The discussion indicates a productive exploration of the concepts without reaching a definitive consensus.

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so i have a question about work and impulse:

The diagram shows an overhead view of two pucks on a frictionless air track. Puck 1 has a mass of 8 kg and puck 2 has a mass of 10.3 kg. The pucks begin at rest at the starting line. The pucks are pushed across the table by equal forces as a function of distance until they reach the finish line. Answer the following three questions about the pucks.

1) Which puck has larger kinetic energy?

A) 1, B) 2, C) same, D) unable to be determined

2) Which puck will cross the finish line first?

A) 1, B) 2, C) same, D) unable to be determined

3) Which puck has larger momentum?

A) 1, B) 2, C) same, D) unable to be determined

So, I know that the puck with smaller mass will cross the finish line first, which is puck 1, so the answer to question 2 is A.

My problem is, I've reasoned that should the same force be applied, the momentums would be equal, because although one has larger mass, the velocities will balance out, so equal momentums. The puck with larger kinetic energy would be the lighter puck for hte same reason.

This is not correct, and I can't really figure out why.

I know this is more of a conceptual question and harder to figure out with just straight math, so any help in the right direction would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
TwiztidMxcn
 

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My problem is, I've reasoned that should the same force be applied, the momentums would be equal, because although one has larger mass, the velocities will balance out, so equal momentums. The puck with larger kinetic energy would be the lighter puck for hte same reason.

This is not correct, and I can't really figure out why.

Why would the velocities balance out? If one accelerates faster than the other, won't its velocity at different times be different? If one accelerated at 100m/s^2, will it have the same velocity crossing the finish line as the heavier one with 1m/s^2? This should help you with the momentum.

The energy, you know, is force times distance. They both travel the same distance, they both experience the same force.
 
thank you kindly friend

i figured my shiz naw out thanks to your help
 
A nice way to see 3) once you've figure out that the kinetic energies are the same is that the kinetic energy may be written

K = \frac{1}{2}\frac{p^2}{m} \rightarrow p = \sqrt{2Km}

making the bigger puck the one with the biggest momentum.
 
My mechanics teacher last semester fed us this question in an "oral quiz". We had like 30 seconds to find the answers
 

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