Kinetic energy dissipated during inelastic collsion

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving kinetic energy and inelastic collisions, specifically focusing on the kinetic energy dissipated during a collision between two blocks with given masses and velocities.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the equations used to calculate the final velocity after the collision and the change in kinetic energy. There is confusion regarding the interpretation of negative values in the context of energy dissipation.

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Participants are actively questioning the definitions and implications of kinetic energy change versus energy dissipated. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the negative sign in the context of energy loss, but no consensus has been reached on the terminology used.

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There is a noted semantic issue regarding the terms "change in kinetic energy" and "energy dissipated," which may affect understanding. The original poster references a solution provided by their professor, indicating that the problem has been previously addressed in a classroom context.

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Blocks A and B are moving toward each other. Block A has a mass of 2.0 kg and a velocity of 50 m/s, while B has a mass of 4.0 kg and a velocity of -25 m/s. They suffer a completely inelastic collision. The kinetic energy dissipated during the collision is:

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So my professor has already worked out this problem, but I'm having trouble understanding why she picked the equations she did and how she manipulated them.

m1v1i-m2v2i=(m1+m2)V

Plug in the numbers and you get V=0

ΔK=\frac{1}{2}(m1+m2)V2-(\frac{1}{2}m1v1i2+\frac{1}{2}m2v2i2)

Plug in and get -3750J
 
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There's no such thing as negative kinetic energy.
The problem did not ask for the CHANGE in k.e. It asked for the k.e. dissipated in the collision.
 
Wouldn't the negative sign just mean that energy was lost? -3750 J was the answer my professor wrote down.
 
jdawg said:
Wouldn't the negative sign just mean that energy was lost? -3750 J was the answer my professor wrote down.

No. Your instructor calculated the CHANGE in k.e. as indicated by the delta K:
" ΔK=1/2(m1+m2)V2-(1/2m1v1i2+12m2v2i2) ""

But the energy DISSIPATED is a positive number The word "dissipated" automatically implies a negative change in energy.

So this is just a semantic issue.
 
rude man said:
No. Your instructor calculated the CHANGE in k.e. as indicated by the delta K:
" ΔK=1/2(m1+m2)V2-(1/2m1v1i2+12m2v2i2) ""

But the energy DISSIPATED is a positive number The word "dissipated" automatically implies a negative change in energy.

So this is just a semantic issue.

Ohh ok! Thanks, I think it makes sense now :)
 

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