Kinetic energy to thermal energy

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the conversion of kinetic energy to thermal energy when a lead ball collides with a wooden cube. The specific heat capacity of the lead ball and its initial speed are provided, but the outcome regarding the temperature rise is contested.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to equate the kinetic energy of the lead ball before impact to the thermal energy of the lead ball after impact. Some participants question whether all kinetic energy is converted to thermal energy or if some is transferred to the wooden cube.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding energy transfer. Some suggest that the original poster's calculations may be correct if all kinetic energy is assumed to be converted to thermal energy, while others express uncertainty about the information provided in the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is ambiguity regarding whether any energy is used to heat the wooden cube, which affects the calculations. The original poster mentions conflicting answers from their lecturer and expresses confusion about the discrepancy.

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Hey guys, I need help with the following question.
A lead ball of specific heat capacity 130J/KgK travels with a speed of 100m/s before it hits a wooden cube fixed to floor and gets stuck inside.What will be the rise in temperature of this lead ball by the time it comes to

I attempted the question as follows,
Kinetic energy Thermal energy of
Of the lead ball = the lead ball after hitting
Before hitting the cube on the cube.
1/2×m×v^2 = mc(t1-t2)
1/2 × m×100^2 = m× 130×(t1-t2)
t1-t2 = 38 Celsius.

But apparently the answer I was given is 3 Celsius.
Can someone please tell me where I went wrong and how to answer the question correctly?

Thanks.
 
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nickyfernandezzz said:
Kinetic energy Thermal energy of
Of the lead ball = the lead ball after hitting
Before hitting the cube on the cube.
Huh?

Is there any additional information in the problem that you may have omitted? e.g. Did any of the energy go towards heating up the wood? If all of the kinetic energy of the lead ball was used to heat up the lead, then I can't find any problem with your calculation.

Edit: I think I figured out the key to reading your statement (which I quoted above). It was written in 2 columns with the equal sign in between. So it reads:
"Kinetic energy of the lead ball before hitting the cube = Thermal energy of the lead ball after hitting on the cube."
 
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I think your answer of 38 is correct .
 
TomHart said:
Huh?

Is there any additional information in the problem that you may have omitted? e.g. Did any of the energy go towards heating up the wood? If all of the kinetic energy of the lead ball was used to heat up the lead, then I can't find any problem with your calculation.

Edit: I think I figured out the key to reading your statement (which I quoted above). It was written in 2 columns with the equal sign in between. So it reads:
"Kinetic energy of the lead ball before hitting the cube = Thermal energy of the lead ball after hitting on the cube."
It doesn't say whether any energy goes to heating up of the wood. But if it does, how do I do the calculation?
 
nickyfernandezzz said:
It doesn't say whether any energy goes to heating up of the wood. But if it does, how do I do the calculation?
You can't ...books/sources often have errors

You say ..."But apparently the answer I was given is 3 Celsius. " ... apparently ? was the answer given 3 or 3.8... and who gave it to you?
 
oz93666 said:
You can't ...books/sources often have errors

You say ..."But apparently the answer I was given is 3 Celsius. " apparently ? was the answer given 3 or 3.8... and who gave it to you?
My physics lecturer gave the answer as 3 Celsius .
 
nickyfernandezzz said:
My physics lecturer gave the answer as 3 Celsius .

Tell him he's wrong
 
oz93666 said:
Tell him he's wrong
Yeah,I guess that's what I'll do. Anyway thanks for helping.
 
nickyfernandezzz said:
It doesn't say whether any energy goes to heating up of the wood. But if it does, how do I do the calculation?
Well, if it doesn't say, then I think it makes sense to assume all of the kinetic energy goes to heat up the lead. If it did tell you that some of the energy was used to heat up the wood, the problem would have to indicate (somehow) how much energy went to the wood and how much to the lead.
And like oz93666 indicated, it is not uncommon that incorrect answers are given.
Regarding telling your lecturer that he is wrong, it may be wise to find a kinder way to address the apparent discrepancy. :)
 
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TomHart said:
Well, if it doesn't say, then I think it makes sense to assume all of the kinetic energy goes to heat up the lead. If it did tell you that some of the energy was used to heat up the wood, the problem would have to indicate (somehow) how much energy went to the wood and how much to the lead.
And like oz93666 indicated, it is not uncommon that incorrect answers are given.
Regarding telling your lecturer that he is wrong, it may be wise to find a kinder way to address the apparent discrepancy. :)
Yes, that seems wise.Thank you.
 

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