Kinetic Engergy in a Quantum Oscillator

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The discussion revolves around calculating the kinetic energy required for an electron beam to excite a quantum oscillator from its ground state to two levels above, given specific parameters such as mass and spring stiffness.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the energy spacing between levels and express uncertainty about calculating the kinetic energy of the electron beam. Some mention formulas related to energy levels and kinetic energy but are unsure how to apply them to find the required kinetic energy.

Discussion Status

Several participants are exploring different aspects of the problem, with some providing formulas and others questioning their understanding of the energy requirements. There is a recognition that the electron beam's energy must match the energy needed for the oscillator to transition between levels, but clarity on the calculations remains elusive.

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Participants note potential issues with conversions and the need for additional information regarding the potential energy involved in the calculations. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the problem and the challenge of arriving at the correct answer.

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How much kinetic engergy in eV must an election beam have to be able to excite a quantum oscillator from its ground state to two levels above the ground state if the mass is 3e-26kg and the spring stiffness is 80N/m?

All I can find is the spacing between the energy levels, I have no idea how to find K. The answer is 6.8e-2 J, but I don't have a clue how to get there.
 
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I can only assume that you can convert whatever energy (number) you got to kiloelectronvolts.

Daniel.
 
I got 2.8e61 using the formula DeltaE = hbar*sqrt(Ks/m)
but this is the space between engergy levels. I don't know how to calculate the kinetic energy of the electron beam.
 
my book has the formula K + U = (.5p^2/m) + .5Ks^2+U0
but I'm not sure what K would be equal to. Granted, it's obvious it would be (.5p^2/m) + .5Ks^2+U0-U but I don't know U either.
 
It means that you don't understand the question: the electron beam's energy is at least equal to the energy the quantum oscillator gets in order to jump from the fundamental level to the second excited one. For simplicity, take it as equal.

Daniel.
 
Ok, the beam has to have as much energy as it takes for the electron to move from one energy level to the next, I understand that. But I still don't understand how to arrive at the answer. The answer I got is nowhere near the correct answer.
 
Maybe it's a number/conversion problem. I'm n ot going to show such trivial computation and maybe no one will.

Daniel.
 

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