Kinetic & Potential Energy of a Pendulum

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The discussion revolves around the kinetic and potential energy of a pendulum, particularly focusing on the energy states when the pendulum is released and when it interacts with a rod. Participants are exploring the implications of energy conservation and reference levels for potential energy.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the definitions of potential energy and kinetic energy at various points in the pendulum's motion, particularly after it hits the rod. There is discussion about the conservation laws applicable to the scenario and the effects of reference levels on potential energy.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants seeking clarification on the mechanics of the pendulum's motion after it strikes the rod. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of speed and the subsequent motion of the pendulum, but multiple interpretations of the energy states are being explored.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on the reference level for potential energy, which is noted as a point of discussion among participants. The original poster expresses confusion about the motion after the pendulum hits the rod, indicating a need for further exploration of the topic.

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Homework Statement
Assume a pendulum of length L is released from angle theta. When it swings to its lowest point (at the point where the string is vertical). the string hits a rod that is perpendicular to the plane of the swing and positioned at 1/2 L. Find an expression for the angle to which the pendulum will swing after hitting the bar.
Relevant Equations
PE = mgh
KE = 1/2 mv^2
TME = PE + KE
When the pendulum is released, the Kinetic Energy should be 0. When the pendulum is at the bottom/hits the rod, it should have 0 potential energy. However, I don't quite understand what happens after it hits the rod.
 
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VicGong said:
When the pendulum is at the bottom/hits the rod, it should have 0 potential energy.
This depends on where you put the reference level for your potential.

What conservation laws are applicable?
 
Hello @VicGong,
:welcome: ##\qquad## !​
VicGong said:
what happens after it hits the rod
Can you describe it in words ?
Perhaps do the experiment :smile: ?

Note that "it should have 0 potential energy" defines a zero-point for the potential energy.

[edit] Ah! Oro was a fraction of a second faster

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VicGong said:
However, I don't quite understand what happens after it hits the rod.
When the string hits the rod, the pendulum bob is moving at some speed ##v_0## which you can easily calculate. The subsequent motion will be that of a pendulum of length ##\frac{1}{2}L## that has speed ##v_0## at the lowest point of its motion.
 
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