Kirchhoff's Current Law: Solving for Open Circuit Voltage

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around applying Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL) to find the open circuit voltage in a circuit involving a voltage source and resistors. Participants are examining the relationships between currents at different nodes in the circuit.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning why certain currents were omitted in the initial analysis of node equations. There is a focus on the implications of an open circuit condition on the current through the resistors and the voltage source.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing clarifications and challenging assumptions about current flow through the circuit elements. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of KCL, but multiple interpretations of the current flow are being explored.

Contextual Notes

There are references to specific circuit values and configurations, but the exact details of the circuit setup are not fully provided. Participants are working within the constraints of the problem as presented in the original post.

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Homework Statement



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The question is to find the open circuit voltage

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The Attempt at a Solution



Just wondering why the current flowing through the voltage source was left out for node 1
and the current through the 16 ohm resistor was left out for node 2?
 
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princejan7 said:
Just wondering why the current flowing through the voltage source was left out for node 1

It wasn't left out. That's the (24-V1)/10 term.

and the current through the 16 ohm resistor was left out for node 2?

It wasn't left out either. If the output is open circuit then the current flowing through the 16R is 3A.

Aside: Personally I don't like the way they wrote the equations. KCL basically states that the sum of the currents equals zero so I prefer to write the equations in the form I1+I2+I3=0 rather than I1+I2 = -I3
 
CWatters said:
It wasn't left out. That's the (24-V1)/10 term.



If the output is open circuit then the current flowing through the 16R is 3A.


can you explain why it is 3A
Doesn't the current source send current to the left so that the 16 resistor gets something less than 3A?
 
princejan7 said:
can you explain why it is 3A
Doesn't the current source send current to the left so that the 16 resistor gets something less than 3A?

Doesn't all the current coming to the current source need to flow through the 16 Ω resistor?

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princejan7 said:
can you explain why it is 3A
Doesn't the current source send current to the left so that the 16 resistor gets something less than 3A?

No.

Apply KCL at the Vth+ node. 3A leaves the node via the current source so 3A must also enter the node from somewhere or the sum won't be zero. The only place it can come from is through the 16R.
 

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