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The discussion focuses on resolving the components of a 12-lb force exerted by a kite string at a 45-degree angle to the horizontal. The horizontal and vertical components can be calculated using the Pythagorean theorem, resulting in values of 12*sqrt(2) for both components. The tension in the string is directed towards the person holding it, leading to a negative vertical component and a variable horizontal component depending on the observer's position. The primary takeaway is that while the magnitude of the forces is always positive, the direction determines the sign of the components.

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Homework Statement



A kite string exerts a 12-lb pull (|F|) on a kite and makes a 45 degree angle with the horizontal. Find the horizontal and vertical components of F.

Homework Equations



Pythagorean

The Attempt at a Solution



12*sqrt(2) for both horizontal and negative

My question is whether to assign a positive or negative to either value? It seems that either could work with the limited assumptions in the question? Or would it be more appropriate for the y force to be negative?
 
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Hi 2clients, well actually this really does depend. When you have a taught string, as we have in your question, there is a tension in the string. Now this tension can be model as acting in both direction along the string. Imagine for example you help a piece of sting in your hands and pulled both ends, there is a force stopping both hands move further apart when the string is taught, so there must be a force acting on you right had to the left, and you left hand to the right :D

So what you need to ask is in which direction do you want the tension to be acting for the purpose of you question. In the question its says it exerts a pull on the kite, so the tension will be acting down the sting towards the person holding the sting, acting away from the kite, so it will have a negative y value and and may have a negative or positive x value depending on where the person is standing relative to the kite :D

That all said, most question wouldn't ask you to work out negatives and posatives, and they will simply want to know the magnitude of a force or the magnitude of its components, which are always positive :-) hope that helped

ps sorry if you knew most of that already, obviously I don't know what you already know :D
 

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