https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=1162921#post1162921 http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/marseille/krasnov.jpg Jal called attention to Krasnov's most recent paper on non-metric QG. https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=158874 =========== here's a video of K.'s most recent Perimeter talk, about NMQG http://pirsa.org/06110041/ you get to hear Lee Smolin and several others (Thiemann?, Freidel?) asking him questions. NMQG is a dark horse (a "surprise candidate"). it wasn't expected. K. impresses me as a "loner" maybe he is what Smolin calls a "valley crosser" he has gone off the beaten path here. I think his new work is hard to evaluate or make predictions about, but could be important. If someone else wants to try to evaluate, I would be very interested to hear what you think. I printed Krasnov 16 November paper for myself when it came out, and likewise his most recent NMQG from a couple of days ago, and have been reading them on my own---but didn't call others' attention. Thanks to Jal for calling attention to this interesting new work.